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I get it, Biden is old and that's a problem, but why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein's Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can't remember common names?

Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people have a problem with Trump. All the more reason to want someone opposing him who can beat him.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I don't understand how this is supposed to be like some 'gotcha' question. Biden wasn't a strong candidate in 2016 and lost to Hillary, who then lost to Trump. He wasn't a strong candidate in 2020 which is why he barely squeaked by Trump to victory. He's an even worse candidate in 2024 which is why Trump again has a shot at the presidency.

None of this is new information and the party has has nearly a decade to find a good candidate, yet they keep foisting some of the most unlikable people upon us election afrer election after election. It almost seems as if they're doing it on purpose at this point. It's not our fault that they've waited until the 11th hour to listen to the complaints and even acknowledge what we've all been saying for years. If Biden loses again, maybe stop looking at leftists to blame and start looking at the people in charge of this private organization deciding the fate of us all.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a long way to go to avoid a question, several paragraphs and you can't even come up with one name.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Fine: Bernie. Happy now that you've got a name?

Fucking Internet lefties and demanding someone have all the answers or they're not worth listening to

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fucking Internet lefties

Ah, there it is.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

he is under no obligation to have a name at hand. that is what primaries are for. not having a name at hand doesn't make biden best possible candidate, or even passable one.

Ah, there it is.

fuck off (you are on my blocklist now, don't bother crafting elaborate answer designed to just piss me off)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

Ignoring the rest of my comment to make me look like I'm demeaning all people on the left and not a specific subset of people who argue in bad faith like yourself?

Also a classic move by those same people!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bernie? The only potential candidate even older than the two in contention?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

Did I say he was perfect?

I simply provided a name when the bad faither's pretended like that was the essential part of the argument at hand

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And yet, instead of answering a simple question, you've launched into a 'if only we could change the past' screed.

If there was a good answer to the question, people like you would just answer.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

That isn't a "if we could only change the past screed," it's calling the party leadership out for allowing things to get to this point. Where in a bus barreling toward the edge of a cliff while the driver has been ignoring our pleas to turn literally any other direction. Now we're feet from the edge and you want to chastise us for not giving an exact direction earlier and happily plummet over the cliff with the driver.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

there is 333 milion people in the us. roughly 1/4 of them is of sufficient age and pro-democracy. one of them has to be able to put together coherent sentence.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Anybody but Biden. Kamala seems to be the expected replacement, that works. If not her, pretty much anyone else. Trump is a terrible candidate. While he has experience in show business, he's way past his prime and pretty much any person should be able to beat him in a debate at this point.

I was actually recently thinking through people I've known and whether they could've done a better job debating Trump than Biden did. Generally any adult with a functioning mind would do better. Adults I've known with a HS education could've crushed Trump in that debate. I'm actually not sure if a homeless guy I once debated on the street regarding the meaning of pi would do better or worse than Biden, he seemed to be at about Trump's level of sanity and if Trump won this last debate, well yeah even he'd do better than Biden. I can also think of some older teenage jocks I once knew, and while they were dumb as rocks their teenager swagger would've been more convincing than Biden's rambling failed attempts to remember rote speeches.

If I try to think of who is actually about at Biden's level, I think of myself at the age of 13, when I had a presentation in front of the class on an issue and for some reason I was struck by that early teenager nervousness, and haltingly tried to give a presentation as the class tried failingly to hide their laughter at how terribly it was going. It was probably the most embarrassing day of my life. That's Biden's level right there, because he sounded just like me back then giving that presentation. So any person in their late teens or older with a full grasp on sanity should be a much better candidate than Biden.