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[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn't justify terrorism or warcrimes.

Edit: I will sit down and commiserate with you on the shit show from both sides for the last 80 years, but those issues should have been dealt with in the past and are not a justification for the present.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It doesn’t and Israel should stop committing them, as should Hamas.

All Israel are doing is ensuring the next wave of Hamas conscripts.

Who decides when we the statute of limitations is up on past transgressions of Israel?

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who decides when we the statute of limitations is up on past transgressions of Israel?

Same people that decide that for the past transgressions of Terrorism Incorporated. Both sides need to stop, sit down and come to an agreement somehow. The only other way for peace is one Hamas sympathizers will NOT like.

As for 'the next wave of Hamas conscripts'. That is inevitable. 80 ish years ago Israel did nothing but come into existance due to a UN mandate and all the nations around them declared war. Nothing Israel can do or not do will prevent Hamas and the like from growing except ceasing to exist and that is the genocide Hamas et al sympathizers are actually supporting.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Israel has been the one to turn down any ceasefire agreements put forward by Hamas, even the ones with the return of all hostages. So that seems like Israel doesn’t want a resolution and is dead set on the, impossible, task of wiping out Hamas. Which is something that isn’t likely, as killing my whole family might make me join Hamas.

Let me ask you this. Is the Palestinian people have tried peaceful measures to get Israel to stop taking land and killing people, and they’ve tried political means. What choice other than violence is left.

Wasn’t it JFK that said something like “people who make a peaceful resolution impossible will make a violent resolution inevitable”.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hamas has never proposed releasing all the hostages. It's always some for reciprocation.

I would remind you that the JFK quote works both ways.