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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Biden and Pence still had public showing and were talked about sometimes. Harris was completely invisible. And most dont randomly jump in less than 4 month before the election.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh if you want to talk about minimal appearances, Harris absolutely did that. It's not our fault if you didn't pay attention. This is from less than a minute of searching google with the date range set to exclude election coverage.

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah cool she actually did do something. Just that none of it really got traction or would convince anyone to vote for her. 4 months just isnt enough to build up a candidate best known for shitty prosecution work

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Other countries are out here doing it in weeks. If we can't do this in 4 months then we deserve Trump.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't there at least one major news cycle shitting on Harris for going to foreign countries to address migrants and telling them we can't handle the amount coming in right now? Pretty sure that was super visible.... Unless we're in double standards world now and you're just talking out of your ass.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh cool, so she hates immigrants as much as Trump then. That will make more people who dislike Trump want to vote for her. Have fun living in project 2025.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ehhh, it was during the pandemic when the border was closed for stupid reasons but she actually went out and tried to get people to stop coming so that they wouldn't create more of a health crisis in overcrowded areas.
And then got shit on it by the group that put the border closure in effect. And has since changed her tune once the closure was no longer in effect.

Just literally doing VP stuff that was deemed necessary at the time which she got a lot of visibility for, which you seem to have clearly ignored or missed. Also love that you had nothing to say to the other response with 5 clear examples, but came to shit on the one with 1.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Missed the other one. Kamala Harris hates black people even though she is black. So it wasnt too far off to believe she hates immigrants as well. Putting someone as a presedential candidate who knowingly put innocent people in prison is just disgusting. The dems managed to get an even worse candidate. The only good thing now is that a Trump win, while still terrible, is now easier to digest since the alternative, while still better, is just as much of a psycho as he is.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gonna have to disagree with that take.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thats fine. Some people think Trump being president is a good idea so I am not surprised some people think someone locking up innocents would be a good pres either.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say that? Please, enlighten me on what I think.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought you disagreed with the take that putting someone as a presedential candidate who locked innocent people up is a bad thing to do. It would help if you managed to say what take you disagree with instead of letting people guess.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You had many takes in there, ones that I disagreed with were mostly due to lack of supporting evidence such as:

She hates black people (I mean I guess you could say the blm protest jailings could be that, but I don't see a narrow window of action as being definitive evidence of a belief)

She is as crazy as Trump (even if all your takes were true, that's still a molehill being compared to a mountain)

Trump is being handed the election (again no supporting evidence considering that in polling she held within the error margin of Biden pre debate)

And lastly, that she has been less visible than Biden or Pence (though mostly due to how much we were laughing at Biden for ice cream gaffs, or how much we were being appalled by Pence's history that was coming to light)

I also don't agree with the take that she hates immigrants considering it was one action that she was lambasted for despite being asked to do so by the current president, and being less offensive in action than the former president. I will admit that I didn't like that particular action but same with the "she hates all black people" I don't see evidence of a history of actions to support that claim.

There's probably more but I'll stop there for now.

Now if you wanted to support any of those takes with actual evidence such as a history of actions that lead to that belief, we could have a discussion about it. However you seem intent on jumping to assumptions so I don't expect that to happen.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As a prosecutor she made sure innocent people stayed in prison. Many of those BLM protestors. That is reason enough to see she either hates black people or just doesnt give af about anything else but her career. Trump being handed the election is obvious when you nominate someone with less than 4 months remaining. I am happy if I am wrong here in the end though I think she is still very dangerous for america. A corrupt prosecutor will not make for a non corrupt pres.

Someone who makes politics based on "immigrants should stay out because they bring diseases" hates immigrants.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not "immigrants should stay out because they bring disease", it's "we have a pandemic and our immigration centers are packed which makes it more likely that people immigrating catch something that's already here or that someone brings with them, causing a further strain on already strained medical staff and resources that would lead to further deaths"

It's not pretty but it had nothing to do with "immigrants are bringing disease" unless you were watching exclusively conservative media.

In light of the first one, where is evidence that the people she kept in prison were innocent of all charges and that they were being kept due to her wishes as prosecutor and not the slow nature of our judicial system considering judge appointments were being choked until conservatives held positions to ensure a massive wave of conservative judges filled those roles?
Where is the evidence that those jailed were exclusively black to support your claim that she hates all black people?

And where is the evidence that you need a full year and a half of campaigning for someone who has current governing experience as part of the current party and is literally the second in line for president should anything bad happen to the current president? Why is four months too short when it has deprived the main opposition with a ton of financial resources in now-ineffective campaigning against someone no longer running and a short time to pivot to something about the new candidate?

Any evidence at all or still just your beliefs leading to your assumptions?

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Quickly found this one for the other idiot desperately trying to defend a crooked presidential candidate. I get not wanting the fascist Trump but just defending someone like that without seeing what kind of person she is is just as blind as the trump cultists. But maybe that is just american politics nowadays.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/crime-lab-scandal-rocked-kamala-harriss-term-as-san-francisco-district-attorney/2019/03/06/825df094-392b-11e9-a06c-3ec8ed509d15_story.html

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did you read that article? It states that her opponents said she was at fault, however neither the police who ran the lab nor the levels of associates in between her and the police lab informed her of the problem. When she did get the news, she took time to figure out if it was true and then dismissed 1000 cases that could have been tainted by that action, and took responsibility for not putting a written document in place about how to do something that was legally required and which the crime lab or the associates in between could also be legally required to do.

It doesn't point to being a corrupt attorney, it points to a failure in several rungs of responsibility below her which it made clear she wasn't informed of (she wasn't cc'd on any email discussing the unreliability of the crime lab worker). She dealt with the problem when it was clear it was the crime lab/prosecution at fault and took overall responsibility for not having a specific memo saying how they prosecutors we're supposed to uphold their legally binding duty to inform.

That's the system fucking up and the person at the top doing damage control and their job. Again, not evidence of corruption unless you only read the title and first paragraph where surprisingly the prosecutors in charge of those cases didn't get named or shamed, because it was politically expedient to hit the person at the top.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Jumping to insults because you find it annoying to have to source your claims isn't a good way to discuss anything with anyone.