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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird how you used a dead link to try and make your point.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok bro. stick with your delusions I can't change them with facts clearly.

If the link isn't working spend 3 seconds google the paper instead of implying I'm deceiving you with a dead link.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Stick with your delusions"

Brother you're comparing, using numbers from the US, a market of around 2.5 million EVs to 250 million ICE.

Of those 2.5 million EVs over 900000 were sold in 2022.

You have braindamage if you think that's a gotcha. I haven't even started filtering down to how many of those are Teslas and the actual percentages therein.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop embarrassing yourself. Not only is he correct that ICE fires are an order of magnitude more common PER CAR, but you are also much more likely to die in an ICE fire.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Says the monkey that sees big number and fails to understand old ICE vehicles (you know, the ones likely to blow up) still dwarf Teslas on the road by about 70 times.

But yeah man, maybe if Musk starts selling his cum in jars you can buy some for yourself! Then you wouldn't have to defend his honor online, you could just drink straight from the source!

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're so fucking stupid you can't even read what I put in all caps, because I knew you're too ignorant to understand it. LMAO.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, a market where the oldest car will be 15 years old vs the oldest car being 40 years old can be directly compared when talking about safety.

You're right, I'm too ignorant to understand how cars break down over time. Thankfully I have the god of time here to set me straight and prove otherwise.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If you knew anything about statistics you would delete your account and hide in your mom's basement in shame.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

while it's probably futile arguing with someone who clearly has half a brain cell ill attempt to explain the simple maths to you.

According to a report by the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), there were an estimated 212,500 vehicle fires in the United States in 2018, resulting in 560 civilian deaths, 1,500 civilian injuries, and $1.9 billion in direct property damage.

Considering that there were approximately 276 million registered vehicles in the United States in 2018 we can calculate the number of fires per million ICE vehicles: 212500 vehicle fires divided by 276,000,000 registered vehicles × 1, 000,000 and the this = 770 fires per million ICE vehicles.

The study i previously linked you reveals an average EV fire frequency of six fires per million EVs in Australia, aligning with the global average (a million is the same outside of USA if you were unsure).

So try really really hard to understand this basic math. maybe you could get one of your more intelligent family members to explain it to you?

Additionally the skeptics guide to the universe podcast recently discussed this and they quoted very similar numbers to my search, and so maybe you'll believe a neurosurgeon over me (but I expect not given your ludicrous position on this matter)

It's not about gotchas it's about facts. maybe Google what they are too?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

ludicrous position on the matter

276 million registered vehicles, around a third of which were sold through the years of 2008 - 2023 (assuming all of those cars stayed on the field).

Leaving the other two thirds in question, whereas Tesla released its first Roadster in 2008.

Which means that you've got around 184 million cars skewing results. Let's say that half of those were sold in the period from 1990-2008.

Which means those ICE vehicles in question, you know the old fucked up ones, still dwarf Teslas on the road by about 70 times (I'm not getting exact numbers for you).

Meanwhile the oldest Tesla is 15 years old and they're starting to burn more and more.

But keep it up man, I'm sure if you defend Musks honor he'll let you swallow a little bit of his cum. Maybe it'll impart some rich magic onto you, who knows?

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol what are you even talking about?? you've clearly revealed yourself to be the fool you are.

you don't like Tesla or musk, we get it. I hate musk too.

EVs are safer than ice cars for fire risk. that's a hard pill for you to swallow, but it's the truth. this also includes Tesla's.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, continue cherry picking monkey. You are very smart.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago