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So when I worked in last 2 roles, I'd joke around and have a laugh with colleagues, the workplace culture of those places I guess was more relaxed, but I got that sense of lack of camaderie or fellowmanship from others too during my time working.

Sorry to be naive, but is it because some people look out for themselves and it's kind of "Yeah you're a funny guy but uh.. when shit hits the fan I ain't there with you" kind of shtick.

Not saying these guys are assholes or anything, but I just think with the current world in any work industry it seems to be tricky to make real friendships inside and outside of work.

I don't know if this just me but I notice that big distinction of the joking around and sharing the same invested topics (I.e. video games) but no more than that

TLDR - Confused if people are being genuine, but they don't really "care" in a sense?

Please let me know if I'm spouting gobbledygook, thank you.

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 81 points 3 months ago (37 children)

What you're saying is a bit gobbledygook. I don't want to make friends at work. I want to do my job and then clock out when finished.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Yeah but not all people need or want that. I agree with op. Camaraderie makes the job easier.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But you can’t expect it from others who don’t have the same needs.

[–] hackeryarn@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t that the whole point of hiring people that fit the company culture? I’ve worked at both types of places in different stages of my life. Both can feel good or bad depending on where you’re at. Don’t try to change the job to fit your needs. Find a different one.

[–] EgoNo4@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The words "company culture" always make me laugh.

Company culture is the first to go out the window when shit hits the fan.

People being let go for speaking their minds, în the most respectful manner, by a company that "values openness".

Culture being changed to fit the current corporate needs.

"Company culture" is nothing but corporate 🐂💩.

Don't drink the corporate kool-aid, kids.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Not fitting company culture" is just how racists get away with not hiring qualified candidates.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 5 points 3 months ago

The fit was always code word for suburban whites for a lot of things

Society has caught on now.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It is just a job and my only need is being paid for doing enough not go fired.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Can't blame you for that mentality

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If I remember correctly, this is literally one of the points taken from the sabotage handbook. Is your job really making you so miserable, or is this some kind of organized propaganda campaign?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Is your job really making you so miserable

Management and HR departments are quite efficient on that kind of moral sabotage. It could be an organized propaganda campaign, at least those would make sense.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Doing the work you are paid for is sabotage?

🤡

Is you naive or a bootlicker?

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

doing enough not to get fired

Ok, not the exact same phrasing, but close enough.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 1 points 3 months ago

Some good advice in there tbh

But as long as they behave, I got no interest in wasting my time to diversion.

You seem like the type to run to the boss man tho

You priorities are wacked haha

[–] hackeryarn@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Totally get that. Just saying that different people want different things out of their jobs, and it’s a good thing that there are places where all of them can fit.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 6 points 3 months ago

Most places suck ass to work for.

Good jobs are few... So most people don't get what they want lol

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not all people want to fake the "office family" dynamic.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like that's a different thing. "We're a family" is a forced perversion of actual meaningful relationships with co-workers.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I will concede there is a spectrum of professional familial attitudes.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do agree though, that the forced family is the worst.

At some point, someone found out that people who get along with their coworkers work better and like their job better. So, some dense HR directors thought, "If we want people to work better, we should force them to be friends!"

Then you get mandatory team-builders that maybe two people enjoy, and the rest are thinking about how they'd rather be spending their time.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Forced family is the worst

But this is literally how family works for the first 20 years of your life. You don't get to choose one. You are assigned one from birth :D

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You're missing the point. For some people, it's not faking it

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not missing the point. For most people it is fake and used as a tool against them. The "office family" is a tactic utilized by employers to make workers complacent without raising benefits. It's in the same toolbox as "pizza parties" and "PTO donation".

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 11 points 3 months ago

You can make a friend at work but the actual work is just that, work.

Most people don't want to be there, they don't want to interact with you either or anyone there either. It is a sterile corpo ran shit hole.

Also, for owners it is always faking...

If ask them for a raise and see how they react lol

[–] li10@feddit.uk 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But they say they are chatting about video games and joking around, what more do you want?

It’s work tho, so it stays there. You have to get on with someone really well to want to see them all day at work and then after as well.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

True. Me and a friend of mine used to work together and live together. Then we'd go home after work, get drunk and play video games just to wake up and do it all over. Granted thar was years ago.

I did work with my now wife at one point. But we never actually hung out too much when we were working together because we were management and she would always go hang out with staff which I wouldn't do

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had a friend who I worked with and then lived together. But we were friends first who happened to share a job.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I met this guy at work. It's a very long story, but the short and skinny is I was homeless and he and his mom gave me a home. I suppose he's more like a brother than anything else. They never asked for anything in return. He just wanted to hang out and get into shenanigans. And shenanigans we certainly got into

Its a cultural thing that definitely exists where I live

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Not only that but it makes it easier to care about one another, which gives a greater incentive to unionize.

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