this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2024
363 points (97.4% liked)

News

23296 readers
5191 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Bypass paywall: https://archive.ph/Kz2Sp

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] lemmeout@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As far as the Starliner mission is considered, they are stranded. Dragon is the rescue mission.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, Soyuz is the emergency rescue plan. Usually 2 of them sit docked to the ISS at all times for just this purpose. But regardless, the Starliner is functional enough they could leave right now if they had to. They just aren't stranded, NASA isn't just like... lying.

The Starliner has redundant systems and even with several thrusters offline it's still within safe operating parameters. They're keeping it docked because they want to figure out the problem, not because they need to figure out the problem.

There isn't a dragon capsule ready to go at the moment, but it doesn't really matter, it shouldn't be needed. Because as I said, nobody is stranded, at least not yet.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

All this reads weird. Private spacecraft sucks, recent Boing corporate culture sucks, SpaceX sucks even more. But this is Boings first flight and it seems it's a relatively minor problem so I'm curious why there is so much backlash. I guess it's a mixture between general anger at Boing for mismanaging their expertise, fatigue about private aeronautics and maybe spaceX fanboys?

Dunno. I'd imagine astronauts would kill for more time in space, part of this seems manufactured drama.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious why there is so much backlash.

I mean, there isn't really the wrong amount of backlash, it just gets misreported as more serious than it is, and then everyone enjoys dog piling on someone they can blame. But to be clear, Boeing is indeed fucking up pretty bad right now pretty much all over over the place.

And the truth is, Elon Musk sucks, probably more than ever. He's becoming a worse human being by the minute. But SpaceX on the other hand, SpaceX has been doing great pretty much since they started. I understand being nervous about private space flight, the proposition is a bit of a gamble. But as much as Boeing is shitting the bed right and left, spaceX has been making up for it by nailing it pretty consistently.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Huh I recently watched a video about how SpaceX basically squandered the renewed interest in the moon (EDIT: It was actually a remix of a Smarter Every Day video, about how they need dozens of launches for a single flight to the moon). Arguably the creator Thunderf00t is a very biased shitposter, but their plan seemed absurd and included blatant corruption. Imho SpaceX has done some good stuff but it's a pretty mixed bag.

Do you know a youtube channel that is smart about reporting about spaceflight without overt fanboy biases?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you know a youtube channel that is smart about reporting about spaceflight without overt fanboy biases?

Actually, yeah I do know some!

Probably the best source has to be Scott Manley, he reports on every rocket launch whether it's in the US, China or anywhere else. He doesn't seem to have any particular bias, he just likes space. He's also really good at explaining things and actually qualified to talk about the subject, with his degrees in astronomy and physics.

There's also Tim Dodd, everyday astronaut. He likes to do deep dives on how rockets work and compares various rockets and their capabilities. I wouldn't say he's unbiased so much as just a fanboy of all big awesome rockets...

They both like to do live streams for big exciting launches. Tim is so good at the streams, that one of the smaller rocket companies (I think Firefly or Astra) recently hired him to be the commentator on their official launch stream. Heh, then they didn't actually make orbit... Doh!

And as you mentioned, Smarter Every Day is also really great. Destin isn't really unbiased but he's real up front about where his biases are. It's clear that what really matters to him is the science and understanding what's really going on.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks! Already caught up a bit on Scott Manley, but I have to check out Tim Dodd too. His RFA / ISAR video is awesome. It seems a lot of new rocket and spacecraft have materialized in the last few years.