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Orion does everything you’re asking for and has none of the baggage. Also, Safari? I mean it sucks, but it literally does what you say you want.
Both are for MacOS (I'm on Linux) and neither are open source, which is also something important to me.
Also, where do any of these provide "a system where users get a share of the revenue from the ad networks"?
You didn’t say that was a requirement. You said
Both of those browsers accomplish that.
I despise argumentation-by-gotcha. if you need to be so pedantic, here is another qualifier to my choices: "these alternatives must not violate my basic freedoms, so anything closed source is out."
Dude it’s not argumentation by gotcha, whatever the fuck that is. All I have to go on is what you said. I don’t know anything else about you, your one comment is all the context I get. What you said and what you clearly meant seem to be two different things.
Look at the very first item in the list of counterpoints in "my one comment". Do Safari or Orion provide anything like that?
Your first item in the list literally says “I like the idea” not “this is a requirement”. Then later on you literally say “all in all”, indicating that the only thing that matters to you is what you are about to say next. Maybe you speak English as a second language, but I literally only have what you wrote to go on. And what you wrote was clear that all that mattered was the final sentence
I know what I wrote, and I wrote a list of counterpoints that work as reasons that I have to use Brave. I thought it was clear that one of the things that are important about is that it can give a way to pay to users and that no one else (that I know of) does it.
""All in all" was meant as way to summarize what I wrote above, not overrule it. I can't force you to interpret it in the way that I meant it, but in case you are in doubt: Safari or anything else from/for Apple is automatically disqualified.
Ok, it is now. Thank you for making it clear to me. I misunderstood
Ok, thank you for making that clear. May I ask why you're against Apple, but not Google? I consider Google a much higher risk at this point in time.
I'm very much against Google when their actions are taken to enforce their monopoly and that give no other choice to people. For all the flak that Chromium gets, it is still open source and the browsers that are built on it do not necessarily need to implement all the things exactly like Chrome. Brave has not adopted manifest v3 and already stated that will not implement WEI.
Anyway it’s clear you want crypto in your browser. You’ve made that very clear. Good luck finding a browser that has the features you want.
Careful, you are already inching into dishonest rhetoric. I explicitly said "The token is not needed and I would be fine if they could pay in cash". Are you also going to blame my language skills for that or can you simply agree that there is no existing better alternative for worldwide micropayments?
I think that must have been in another thread, because I see no mention of cash anywhere in this thread. I reread all your comments that I've been a part of and still don't see anything like that. I see you mentioning paying someone with patreon, but it seems like you are advocating for crypto in that third bullet, so maybe I'm misunderstanding what you wrote.
I wasn't blaming your language skills, all I was saying is that the only thing I have to go on here is what you've written in this thread. I'm not going into your profile and reading every comment you make so if you have something else in there that I need context on then it's not really a language issue, just a context one.
And yes you are completely right. There are no better alternatives for worldwide micropayments. I don't think crypto is the answer (in fact I've written quite a number of very very long comments over the years on all of the stuff that crypto claims to solve and doesn't), but it would be nice to have a solution to it.
I wrote:
SEPA (in case you don't know), is the money transfer network between banks in Europe.