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From the article: *Large SUVs were particularly affected. According to the police, notes were attached to the cars indicating that they were harmful to the climate. The tyres were not punctured, but merely deflated. The cars were parked in the area between the S-Bahn line and Elbchaussee around Kanzleistraße. *

Personally, I like this protest way more than glueing themselves to the streets, causing traffic jams where cars burn gasoline for hours and ambulances / firefighters / police gets stuck, putting innocent life in danger.

The article is in German. Warning: this link leads to google translate.

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[–] CarloGesualdo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish this form of protest would catch on elsewhere as well. Every day I'm struck by the number of huge gas-guzzling pick up trucks parked around the city, and seemingly every bed completely empty. Letting out the air to their tires would certainly be slower and more work than the old method of puncturing their tires, but has the dual benefit of not necessitating replacement (which has a carbon cost of its own) and not enabling the vehicle owner to file an insurance claim.

[–] Seathru@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I wish this form of protest would catch on elsewhere as well.

I feel this would go over differently in the land of "fuck around and find out". You'd have bored old dudes with rifles setting up watches. And ~~if~~ when something did happen, public opinion is not going to be on the air-letters side.

not enabling the vehicle owner to file an insurance claim.

My insurance comes with road hazard that would cover this at no cost; and I'm a poor.

It seems misguided. The people doing the most climate damage aren't parking their cars on the streets. Go pop some private jet tires.

[–] upstream@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a horrible form of protest because it is likely to cause property damage as most people are completely blind and oblivious and will drive on their now deflated tires for a bit before realizing something is wrong.

That will likely ruin the tire and possibly also damage the rim.

Second, you have no idea who you hurt and the repercussions of it.

There’s no immediate “big car = bad person” logic that’s valid.

If you want to protest in a meaningful manner you should support politicians who want to increase taxes for fossil fuels.

There’s a reason the average engine size (and thus vehicle size) is lower in Europe, and it’s not small streets and parking spaces.

Obviously since giant cars never took off here we didn’t scale things to fit, but that’s a chicken and egg thing.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

There’s no immediate “big car = bad person” logic that’s valid.

It's very easy to tell the difference between a big car that's big for a reason (7 seats for large families, van for a business) and a car that's big just because (i.e. a large SUV).

[–] CarloGesualdo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The situation you are describing where a car owner returns to their vehicle, fails to see their four flat tires, fails to notice the note on their windscreen explaining that their tires have been deflated in protest, fails to notice their car's tire pressure warnings, and drives any way, and drive enough to ruin their tires AND wheels seems unlikely enough to qualify as catastrophizing. The far more likely outcome is that the owner returns to their car and then spends some time, perhaps an hour or two, figuring out how to reinflate their tires.

I'm sure the individuals taking part in these protests also support politicians who desire stricter regulations about the types of vehicles they are targetting. Participating in peaceful protest and participating in a political process are not mutually exclusive.

I wish this form of protest would catch on elsewhere as well. Every day I’m struck by the number of huge gas-guzzling pick up trucks parked around the city, and seemingly every bed completely empty. Letting out the air to their tires would certainly be slower and more work than the old method of puncturing their tires, but has the dual benefit of not necessitating replacement (which has a carbon cost of its own) and not enabling the vehicle owner to file an insurance claim.