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[Discussion] What did you think of Matrix 4? (Spoilers) (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Blaze@sopuli.xyz to c/movies@lemm.ee
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Saw a video the other day (not in English unfortunately) with an analysis of how it actually makes sense from a themes and style perspective (e.g. the Wachowski's work on the Sense 8 taught them how to go to a more "impro" kind of directing compared to planning everything with very established plans in their earlier works)

Curious to see what the opinion of the people here is

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[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It was just okay. (Spoilers ahead!)

The overarching story that “love wins” I felt was nice, but the way it was handled really diminished Trinity’s role/value. No longer a bad ass herself, she’s now just there to support the male lead.

The reusing of the original character tropes, down to their names(!), wasn’t great. Easier to explain to the audience I guess, but severely lacking in originality.

Cool special effects, as always!

If I remember correctly the line that summed up M4 was spoken by Trinity (paraphrased), “That’s the horrible thing about selling your ideas. Once the company has them they can do whatever they want, whether you agree with them or not.” (Referring to the software game Neo had sold, and was working on at the beginning of the movie…)

Which was a weird line in the context of the movie, and makes me believe that Warner Bros. was going to make M4 regardless of what the Wachowski sisters wanted, or thought of the script. So one of them signed on to salvage what they could.

I enjoyed it, but won’t be rewatching it anytime soon.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

makes me believe that Warner Bros. was going to make M4 regardless of what the Wachowski sisters wanted, or thought of the script. So one of them signed on to salvage what they could.

My understanding is that this is exactly what happened. Also the wachowski’s parents died, so Lana felt some nostalgia wasn’t the worst thing to have in her life at that point.

But yea, this is what happened, and the film is dripping in a weird meta fever dream of a tantrum about it. It’s the charm others have mentioned. When I saw it in the cinema, I was immediately astounded that they were going there. Probably as surprised as I’ve ever been in a cinema.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

Also the wachowski’s parents died, so Lana felt some nostalgia wasn’t the worst thing to have in her life at that point

Thanks for pointing this out!