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[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 62 points 2 months ago (4 children)

80% of the shit you put in your recycling bin goes straight into a landfill. plastic recycling was a giant greenwashing scam by the oil industry

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Quite honestly, going to a landfill seems so so so much better than the alternative: going into the environment and oceans, turning into microplastics and getting into food chains.

At least landfills are contained. Bury the shit until we have the tech to deal with it.

Some day, between the plastics, nutrients from organics, e-waste, landfills are going to be a goldmine.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quite honestly, going to a landfill seems so so so much better than the alternative: going into the environment and oceans, turning into microplastics and getting into food chains.

Eh, it pretty much does all that bad stuff from the landfills

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How does buried plastic cause microplastics to leech everywhere?

Weathering (sun, exposure, abrasion caused by plastic being moved by wind and sea) is a significant part of microplastic formation.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Here you go:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2468584422001088

You may have a misinformed concept of what landfills are; most garbage is not buried and covered, it is mostly exposed in open pits and just plain old mountains of garbage everywhere. However, even buried, it still decomposes into microplastics as explained in the paper linked

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I read the snippets and abstract. I'm not seeing how these micro plastics are getting out of the landfills.

Environmental risks of microplastics in landfills

In landfills, microplastics are not standalone pollutants. Generally, such tiny particles can adsorb various harmful chemicals due to its large specific surface area [54].

Never knew that!

In this case, microplastics generally served as the vector for migrating adsorbed pollutants including heavy metals, antibiotics and other pharmaceutical and personal care products [55].

That's scary, microplastics can absorb and spread pollutants!

But I'm not seeing anything about how they're getting out from a landfill. I even read a few of the referenced articles. But nothing about if or how they're getting out.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Landfills leak all the time. There is no actually contain all the toxic pollutants in there, specially not the microscopic stuff

https://www.colorado.edu/ecenter/2021/04/15/hidden-damage-landfills

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Fair enough, there's potential for landfills to leak.

But if its between that, dumping it in the ocean, or exporting it, the landfill wins.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quite honestly, going to a landfill seems so so so much better than the alternative: going into the environment and oceans, turning into microplastics and getting into food chains.

Why are we full of microplastics then?

[–] sus@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most microplastics come from car tires and washing of clothing with plastic in them. (both abrade the plastic causing uncountable tiny pieces of microplastics to enter the water or the air)

Then there are a lot of places that dump plastic into rivers or the ocean instead of into landfills.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I recall a episode of penn and teller that goes over this in detail. Even talks about how landfills are engineer to gather the gasses that are released to reuse as fuel.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that?

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 months ago

Yep. I don't even bother recycling plastic anymore. It's fucking pointless. I just recycle glass and tin cans.