this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2024
92 points (93.4% liked)

Electric Vehicles

3219 readers
108 users here now

A community for the sharing of links, news, and discussion related to Electric Vehicles.

Rules

  1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
  2. Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.
  3. No self-promotion
  4. No irrelevant content. All posts must be relevant and related to plug-in electric vehicles — BEVs or PHEVs.
  5. No trolling
  6. Policy, not politics. Submissions and comments about effective policymaking are allowed and encouraged in the community, however conversations and submissions about parties, politicians, and those devolving into general tribalism will be removed.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Sunshine@lemmy.ca
92
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz will start at $59,995 (arstechnica.com)
submitted 2 months ago by MyOpinion@lemm.ee to c/evs@lemmy.world
43 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I don't agree with this article. 60k for this is way too much. Ev makers really need to work on pricing.

If it feels like many years since you first saw Volkswagen's retro electric microbus, the ID. Buzz, you're not wrong. It's surprisingly aptly named; I can't think of another car during the past decade that has aroused so much interest among people who don't usually care about four-wheeled transport. Nearly eight years after the concept made its debut, the Buzz is on sale in Europe and has been for a year. Now it's time for America to get its turn, with deliveries starting later this year.

We drove the Euro-spec Buzz almost two years ago, but it's fair to say the version that's coming to the US is a better proposition. The Buzz we drove had a shorter wheelbase, a smaller-capacity battery, and seats only for five, and if you sat in the back, there was no ventilation, and the windows couldn't be opened.

The US market will only receive the longer-wheelbase Buzz, which adds about 10 inches (250 mm) between the axles. This adds room for a third row of seats, making it a proper seven-seater. It should be a bit more humane sitting in the back, as there are air vents—we're waiting to drive it to find out if any windows open back there.

The three-row Buzz also carries a bigger (91 kWh) battery pack, but there's no getting around that retro shape's big bluff frontal area, and the EPA range estimate for the rear-wheel drive Buzz is just 234 miles (377 km), a number we're sure will disappoint many who've been patiently waiting for the electric minibus. All-wheel drive drops the range by 3 miles (5 km).

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A lot of the OEMs are LOSING money on the EVs they sell, and they've outright said it's the next generation vehicles we'll finally be able to start making low profits on, which mind you, many of them are delaying.

It's a lot more complicated than just swap the engine for a battery. They tried that and lost a shit load of money.

The cars require whole new architectures and supply chains and that's expensive.

Do you really feel entitled to them selling cars for a loss while they figure their shit out?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Do you really feel entitled to them selling cars for a loss while they figure their shit out?

If I have to tell them how to implement thirty year old technology they’ve intentionally ignored while cooking the books on their EPA numbers, yeah.

What, do they need a bailout from the US taxpayers too? They got fifteen billion dollars in Net Profit last year. Howabout laying off your C-suite geniuses and build - what is it? - A “people’s car”?

They have no interest in doing so because the profit margins aren’t good enough. So yes, they may intercourse themselves forthwith.