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[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He isn't free to leave the profession because part of his con is that he is using his professional status when he writes something or says something as a psychologist.

His worth as a propagandist is that he can attach that professional status to his messages, if it's "disgraced" psychologist, or "struck off" psychologist then it has less impact because he has been found to have broken his professional conduct to the point where he lost the title.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He has better marketing than that - it'll be "forced out of his profession by PC thugs" psychologist.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That won't convince anyone that isn't already lost.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think there are plenty of people who aren't already Jordan Peterson's fans but wouldn't want to be forced out of their profession for something they said outside of work. His fight will appeal to them whether or not he wins in court.

Which means they don't understand the situation and never will. This is not 'forced out of their profession for something they said outside of work,' this is 'an electrician declaring electricity doesn't exist and encouraging people to cut down power lines.' This is not 'oh no he said he likes pizza rolls instead of pizza,' this is 'a professional in a field has stopped updating his knowledge in said field and has actively advocated against large parts of his own field based on nothing but his own mental and moral failures.'

Peterson was free to address his 'concerns' in a scientific way, giving him the basis to actually argue his points as valid, if alternative scientific fact. The truth his nothing he has ever stated is scientifically defensible; and when you're licensed to use science in a way that can help or kill people, you need to stay up to date with the science and only use the most up-to-date peer reviewed science.

He is free to speak however he likes, he is free to get almost any profession he likes and speak how he likes, he can't essentially go against 70 years of scientific advancement because he wants to make money on the side catering to people with 1860s beliefs on science.

[–] IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Psychologically competent thugs? Sounds scary.

[–] propaganja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no high regard for the guy, but are you seriously, like seriously seriously, trying to tell people that Jordan Peterson depends on his professional title for... literally anything?

Are you saying that without it, he will lose a non-trivial amount of... anything?

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He won't lose out on his current game as people watch him already, but when he wants to write a book and say J. Peterson, psychologist he won't be able to and that is a selling point for books and being taken seriously.

[–] propaganja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So if the argument were about whether a license was important, in the general case, as a selling pointl for books, I would have no choice but to concede.