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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Why do they care if we are gay?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don’t. They care about tying us up in endless bullshit fuckery.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh they do. They care very much about queer people. That's why they have essentially made them illegal. And that's why they're doing this- they think we hate queer people just as much as they do rather than it being a mixed bag.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don’t give a fuck if we live or die, let alone if we’re gay. They might give a fuck that their own declining population is gay, that I grant you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They want everyone to follow their vision of morality. That includes demonizing queer people to the point of making them illegal.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why do they care if we are gay?

Because they can't generate enough self-worth by themselves. Therefore they must do so by demonising an outgroup, participating in the social action of scapegoating in order to create status within a group which privileges hate.

Infrahumanisation (or infrahumanization) is the tacitly held belief that one's ingroup is more human than an outgroup, which is less human. [...] According to Leyens and colleagues, infrahumanisation arises when people view their ingroup and outgroup as essentially different (different in essence) and accordingly reserve the "human essence" for the ingroup and deny it to the outgroup.

The idea that queer people are 'less human' is a rallying call to people who gain status from hate to care very much about the issue, because queer people become a potent target for personal and social disgust.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

And we are a convenient one at that. We’re born this way into every group of humans observed. Bisexuality in some form is extremely common which allows choice narratives to take hold. Then there’s patriarchy, which allows to pin the sins of the worst straight men to be held against all queer people

[–] kwozyman@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They don't care at all. What they do care is sowing polarization and distrust between western citizens. Russia benefits most when we (the West) are divided on various social issues, which leads to distrust of authorities, election of extremists in office and eventually weak and corrupt states and governments that are easily controlled or countered by Russia.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Well said, it's great to see people talking about this.

The Kremlin's propaganda isn't "Putin is great" or "stop funding Ukraine." It's way more insidious, causing many small fractures in society. Divide and conquer in an age of social media and LLMs.

People vs police, black vs white, men vs women, young vs old.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

it strikes me as odd that the only effective counter to this is to ignore the very real and legitimate harm caused by our hegemony.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

They want to undermine and weaken the US by fostering division. Standard KGB playbook.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Because Russia would love nothing more than America to play second fiddle in their orchestra, and if they can’t have that they want us at each other’s throats. We are an easy and omnipresent scapegoat so Russia can weaponize that to sow discord and possibly get us on the “anti equality” bandwagon. In short, it’s step one of the Russo-American axis powers.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

They want to feel superior. If some people are different, then they are inferior, or weird.

This is why calling Trump weird has been so successful.