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I'm finding the hard way that finding another job is a grind: you invest time reading what they want to hire, you write a CV and an application.

Most of the time you don't get an answer, meaning you are that irrelevant to them. Most of these times it is YOU the one who has to ask if they decided for or against. On the limited times they write you back, it's a computed generated BS polite rejection letter.

I asked one of them how many candidates they considered and why they rejected me, but that only made them send me another computer generated letter.

I'd like to know how close I was and in what ways I can become a more interesting candidate, but nobody is going to give me a realistic answer.

It sucks having to need them more than they need you. And I should consider me lucky, because I have a job, but jesus christ, I feel for those who have to do this without stable income or a family that offers them a place to stay...

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All there is to accept is the knowledge that the vast majority of employers, the wealth holding members of society, do not actually care about anyone that won't earn them more money.

And then also that not all, but most of society will also tell you that you must be doing something wrong, it must be your fault.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"The wealth holding members of society"

Hahaha, every hiring manager I've worked for (you know, someone looking to fill a spot on our team) wasn't exactly what I'd call "a wealth holder".

They're middle-to-senior management, making anywhere from 100k to 300k, at most. Sometimes quite a bit less.

We're talking people who are a good 3 levels away from the C class. Meaning they'd be competing with everyone at their level, and above, to get to those higher seats in the pyramid.

Hiring managers are rarely farther up the food chain, unless they're hiring for those seats farther up the food chain - which isn't any of us here.

It's It like there's a team of managers who just do hiring/interviews. HR handles the initial stages, and the actual "hiring manager" is the person who's looking to add someone to their team, someone they'll be managing.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, I'd say 100k to 300k qualifies as more money than I've ever made in a single year of my life, more than I've made in my entire life if we go closer to 300k...

But what I meant was that the ultimate hiring process is dictated, signed off on or altered, all the way down, by the wealth holding members of society. The top execs, the board.

And that the society created, and largely owned, by their policies is essentially gaslighting us every day.

Have you ever spent an entire year applying to jobs... as a full time job? After having had a career, losing it to a disability, then trying to go back after years of recovery?

With maybe one reply every few months, despite being qualified for everything you are applying to?

Becoming depressed as everyone around you spends the first month giving you mindless cheery platitudes, then forgetting you exist, then becoming angry when you tell them you can't afford to do anything that involves money?

Then when you finally cave and go work some bullshit job you are immensely overqualified for, everyone blames you for not living up to your potential?

They made it, it worked out for them, why didn't it work out for you?

Even though it never once occured to them to maybe help you out monetarily and avoid going into massive debt, or by putting in a good word for you with their network of contacts.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

But what I meant was that the ultimate hiring process is dictated, signed off on or altered, all the way down, by the wealth holding

Unless it’s a small company, they don’t know anything about you, nor make a decision in any way specific to you. They agreed to a budget expenditure and they want to know the hiring manager followed through. There is no personal connection