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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (15 children)

And Stein's answer every single time this comes up?

"What about Gaza?"

She is literally an operative for Russia and the Republicans. This isn't even a meme or conspiracy theory, it's simply a plain truth.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I don't understand how a genocide can be taken so lightly. Some people have trouble casting a vote for any political party that sponsors one.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Okay Mr better party choice. Here's a scenario: You and your friends vote for Jill Stein over Kamala Harris. Now, Kamala Harris has something of a chance to get a ceasefire out of Israel and stop the killing she has stated that that is her goal. But she doesn't get elected because you deluded morons voted for Jill Stein. No, Donald Trump gets elected instead and he pumps the gas on the genocide in Gaza as he has stated several times that he will do. He pours every military asset we have into Israel and gives them carte blanche to wipe out everyone in Gaza. And then on top of that he pulls all of our aid out of Ukraine and Russia steamrolls over the ukrainians wiping them out.

Now who supports genocide you fucking twit?

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The other thing I don't understand is all the anger and vitriol from you guys. Everyone who lives in the US and contributes tax dollars to the federal government supports genocide. The US has been supporting Israel unconditionally for decades. Do you really think Kamala Harris is sincere about stopping this, given how Biden's administration has handled the situation? Or any other Democrat or Republican since Carter?

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They do more then what Trump does. Regardless by letting Tump win you are saying you are okay with the genocides going on in Ukraine. At least more might survive under Harris. Under Trump they will die too. And you will be every bit as guilty as anyone who voted for trump because you could not get over your ego and do the littlest fucking thing for your beliefs.

Does anyone in the green party even have experience on the federal level?

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Again, not understanding where the anger is coming from. I'm not even supporting a specific candidate. I'm pointing out that 3d parties that take a stand against US imperialism will always have support, because neither major party can be trusted in this regard. And again, for some people, this is a line they won't cross. I'll stop now because clearly this is unproductive.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I support the college protestors even when people say they're hurting the cause, but I would say Jill Stein definitely hurts the cause.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world -5 points 9 hours ago

I think you're suggesting Trump would be worse than Harris for the cause. But my point is that a lot of people feel that voting for either is sanctioning genocide, and Stein fills that niche by condemning it. It's pretty low-hanging fruit for a politician.

I'm legitimately curious as to how college protestors could be hurting the cause.

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