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[–] malssistra@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The SS at Auschwitz were also "doing their job"

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love this discussion because it's a complex issue.

I suppose I stand on the side that maybe she should have just delivered them. It's just words and individuals can throw garbage in the bin pretty easily. I sure as shit wouldn't want anybody filtering my mail.

OTOH, "got a job to do" is a weak justification for unethical behaviour.

Put me down 3:2 in favour of delivering the things I guess.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

It is a complex issue and deserves a full conversation. It's hard to say what I would do in her shoes, but it probably would be to copy a personal letter a bunch of times. The context of the letter would, of course, be a general warning about circulating hate speech mail trying to misinform people, and be wary of what you read.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hot take bud, where do you draw the line with that?

Can a transphobic postal carrier refuse to deliver anything they disagree with also? Shouldn’t they be able to decide what mail you get based on their beliefs as well?

Or are you a hypocrite that thinks that rules should only be broken because you disagree with them.

Oh, and please don’t go to Nazis when you feel someone disagrees with you. It’s immature, it’s irrelevant to the discussion, and it’s foolish as hell.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pro trans material isn't putting people in harm's way

Huge difference bud

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

People with strong religious beliefs believe that it does. They believe that even allowing people to see that LGBTQ+ people can be accepted leads to an acceptance of sin, and risks condemning a soul to hell. Even if it's bullshit, they still believe that real harms are being done.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You’re wrong here bud. No matter how you feel about it. You’re wrong. It’s her job to deliver mail. Even if she disagrees with it.

And for the record- they will tell you that trans rights puts people in harms way as well- even if we both disagree- belief is belief at the end of the day- and someone is choosing to take the law into their own hands based on that belief.

She should be fired.

I’m done arguing this with people that don’t understand how federal laws work on the most basic of levels.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe not fired for a first offense. That's a bit extreme imo.

In a different scenario, what would you think if it was UPS or another private company worker instead of federal?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it’s your job to do a thing, and you don’t do the thing you agreed on upon being hired- you lose said job.

That’s how life works.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You haven't met some of my coworkers.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago

Fair enough. That’s true. I certainly have not.