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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians.

I don't want the US government selling weapons to Russia to use against Ukrainians. I'm glad we aren't.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not yet, anyway. That's absolutely Trump's plan though. You want to help prevent that?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You want to quit calling me a trumper every time I speak out against genocide?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 day ago

Why can’t they? You accuse everyone you talk to of supporting genocide. Quit playing the victim of the exact same shit you do to everyone here.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Putting a question mark at the end of a lie doesn't make it a question. I'm already voting for Harris, and you will never care because all you want in this world is total unquestioning loving support for Netanyahu and the genocide he's committing for you.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can put "but I'm voting for Harris" in tiny font at the end of one of your countless attacks on Democrats, it doesn't absolve you of the damage you do.

Also I'm starting to worry you're getting high on your own supply here - you do recall that I don't actually support Netanyahu and your accusing me of it is just a rhetorical device, right?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Since you keep ignoring that I'm not a trump supporter and keep lying about me, there's no reason for me to take anything you say at face value either.

edit: Elsewhere in the thread, there's someone outright denying genocide. You've chosen to focus your attention on someone who objects to genocide instead.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. You decided to confront me and call me a Trump supporter. You ignored the genocide denier because his cause is your cause.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well there's a difference between "you are a Trump supporter" and "you are supporting Trump". I accuse you of the latter.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You proactively call opposition to genocide trump support.

You won't say boo to genocide deniers.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Correct. But I wouldn't insult you by implying that your views are ideologically similar to Trump.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Except for virtually every conversation we've ever had. And now you're calling me a genocide denier.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neither of us is a genocide denier and we both know it, so whenever you start with that crap I tend to ignore it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know I'm not a genocide denier.

Is Netanyahu committing genocide?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then tell it to the guy who's denying genocide instead of getting pissed off that someone opposes the genocide you just admitted is happening.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Plenty of people willing to do that. "There is no genocide" is a viewpoint that gets shut down pretty quickly around here. It's not dangerous (on lemmy - in the real world it's very dangerous of course).

"There is a genocide, and we need to exclusively attack Democrats for it", on the other hand, is a very prevalent and dangerous view on Lemmy, and is more deserving of my time.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I suppose you would consider genocide denial harmless.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Aaaand now we're back to "obviously false stuff that I will proceed to ignore". Good talk.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

You said it yourself. You don't care about genocide deniers, but you get big mad that people might consider genocide anything less than a perfect outcome.

[–] xhrit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do you believe Putin when he claims Ukraine is committing genocide against Russia in the Donbas region, or are you aware that fascist regimes are liars and routinely accuse their opponents of genocide?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you believe Putin when he claims Ukraine is committing genocide against Russia in the Donbas region,

Of course I don't. It's why I'm glad that we're not selling him weapons.

[–] xhrit@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do you really think the klepto fascist billionaire dictators that rule palestine are not using the same tactics as Putin?

Back when Putin was the head of the KGB, the current president of palestine attended a KGB run university in moscow where he was hand selected by the chief of the soviet active measures program to lead the PLO. His doctorial dissertation was about how he thought jews faked the holocaust in order to build international support for israel.

He literally studied how to fake genocide against your own people at KGB school.

https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Other_Side.html?id=j-maMQEACAAJ

https://fathomjournal.org/soviet-anti-zionism-and-contemporary-left-antisemitism/

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're not selling Palestine weapons, either. Netanyahu is committing genocide. We should stop selling him weapons.

[–] xhrit@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

70% of aid sent to gaza is taken by hamas and used to buy weapons.

Palestinians have been claiming israel has been committing genocide ever since the KGB wrote the PLO charter in moscow in 1967.

As of this date no Israeli has ever been charged with committing genocide in a court of law.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Genocide denial is disgusting and you should stop.

[–] xhrit@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

If there was really genocide then why has it never been proven in a court of law?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I submit that the Holocaust happened regardless of the outcome of the Nuremberg trials. Would you like to disagree and maintain your argument's internal consistency?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weren’t you in another thread crying because you were being accused of something you claim not to be true?

You just can’t not hypocrite, can you?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No surprise that you're standing up for a genocide denier.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not a trumper. But the guy you just stood up for was plainly denying genocide.

Were you in such a hurry to spam my inbox with abuse that you didn't even notice?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Whatever you say, trumper. I’ve seen your posts/comments here. You’re not fooling very many people- I hope you understand this.

And I’m not spamming your inbox, I’m responding to comments in a thread about a single topic. That’s how social media works.

I’ve seen how you act bud. You falsely accuse people of dumb shit so you can feel like a victim. Like trumpers do.

You’re not a victim.

Get over yourself.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So no, you did not notice how the person you're defending was literally saying that there is no genocide going on in Gaza.

You followed my comment history here because you got upset that I didn't accept "hilarious" as a rebuttal to my assertion that AIPAC openly bought two candidates.

In an entirely different thread. About an entirely different subject. In a different community.

You also got upset about downvotes on fucking lemmy and accused me of using sockpuppet accounts. Since you've looked at my comment history recently, does it look like the comment history of someone who uses sockpuppets to manipulate imaginary internet points that don't even accrue, let alone matter?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What I see here is a Trump supporter getting bet out of shape that they got called out. And being a hypocrite about being called something they don’t feel is correct.

So I set things to correct.

You’re welcome.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If you wanted to make it clear that you support genocide, you couldn't make it much clearer than by coming to the defense of a genocide denier like you did here.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 21 hours ago

Okay trumper. Feel better now?