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“Federal Election Commission records show Stein paid $100,000 in July to a consulting outfit that has worked with Republican campaigns, as well as Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s independent presidential bid. The firm, Accelevate, is operated by Trent Pool. The Intercept reported that he appeared to be part of the mob that breached the grounds of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6., 2021. The Journal hasn’t independently verified the reporting.”

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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 14 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Who are they shilling for? See, Comrade Stein is shilling for Russia. As we know- there is a connection. But who exactly would the democrats be accused of shilling for?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

But who exactly would the democrats be accused of shilling for?

Netanyahu. AIPAC bought two candidates right out in the open. The party welcomes foreign interference against progressives.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Israel paid directly for two candidates and committed FARA violations? That's a big claim buddy. Got any... Evidence?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

AIPAC paid to defeat Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush. If you want to believe that AIPAC is actually independent of Israel, I can't make you stop believing absurdities.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

I know what AIPAC is. Your claim is that they have direct funding from the government of Israel. That's illegal. You are allowed to set up a lobby group in the US that supports another country as long as the funds are obtained from within the US.

I know this might come as a shock to you, but there are many jews living in the US that happen to support Israel. You are welcome to set up any lobby group you want. Go ahead and set one up for Lebanon. But FARA is very clear about the source of the funds.

If youre not familiar with FARA take some time to acquaint your self? Or talk to a lawyer maybe? I don't know.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lol what? Are you just totally ignorant to corporate involvement in politics? Do you know what a lobbyist is?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Comparing Russian influence on a compromised asset to lobbyists is a bit of a reach bud. But you do you!

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Wow, wow. Have you seen Erin Brokovich? Do you think corporations have your best interest at heart? Triangle shirtwaist factory? OSHA? Johnson&Johnson gave generations of babies cancer with their talc. Just look up tort reform and tort cases. Watch the documentary Hot Coffee. Watch the documentary The Bleeding Edge about medical devices. How about the Oakville Blob scandal that happened during Clinton's administration? What about social media companies and tech companies and the products they produce? Lead in baby food and Dollar Tree foods. The Nestle baby formula scandal. Thalidomide babies. Glyphosate being a neurotoxin that's permeated our water supply. What about environmental impacts of our companies and how those are genociding more people than actual active war? What about P Diddy and Epstein and all their connections to literal business owners who fund and come up with many policies? Or earth being past 6 of 9 planetary boundaries?

And think about how insurance companies lobbied to prevent Medicare for All policies and the best thing we could get was Obamacare. Or how price gouging has been shown to have happened with current inflation around fucking FOOD prices. Or how fucking taxes and tax breaks work for corporations compared to the rates in the 70s.

Notice how all these things harm the general public? The very people our representatives should represent? Yeah, Dems are shills and have blood on their hands.

They are literally killing us through abusive policies, inaction, medical neglect, starvation, climate change, and mismanagement. The Dems may be less fucked up than others, but they are absolutely fucked up.

Clinton was buddies with Epstein. They are NOT "for the people." They are for the status quo.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The state of political discourse on Lemmy:

have you seen Erin Brokovich

Jesus. You can't make this up

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What? I'm in my thirties and a sex worker. I'm not a "kiddo"

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If that’s what you wanted to have said- it’s good for you that you managed to say it, isn’t it?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't I want to say that? I am an adult talking about an adult topic. I gave you numerous examples of Dems being a shill, which you literally asked for:

Who are they shilling for?

As we know- there is a connection. But who exactly would the democrats be accused of shilling for?

And neither I nor the other commenter are advocating for voting for Stein or Trump. Im voting for Kamala specifically because I think she will help sex workers. So it's kinda funny how hostile you're being with your little insults when we are on the 'same side.' Another Dem with the emotional and verbal abuse, you all can't resist it, can you? And then Dems wonder why people aren't motivated to vote for them lol.

What problems does Russian interference cause, that isn't present with corporate interference? You assert they are totally different and being a shill for one is drastically different than a shill for another (admitting Dems are shills). Both are guilty of killing people and misinformation. It's just who personally gets the financial benefits that changes. So how is being a shill for Blackrock so much better than a shill for Russia?

If Kamala was a shill for Russia and Trump was a corporate shill, but their policies were the same, would it be more moral to vote for who they shill for, or for the policies they say they will put forth?

Like if Kamala was a Russian asset, and Trump wasn't, who would you vote for?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t answer stupid hypotheticals asked by people in bad faith after they called me a coward.

You lost any chance to have a mature discussion on the topic.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fine, I accept your forfeiture and loss.

It's definitely proving my coward accusation wrong by running away from an argument you're losing. Sir Robin ran away....

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Forfeiture and loss….

Bud, you lost this shit before it started. And don’t think I don’t recognize your troll attempts by the way. Mods love it from what I understand. And based on your mod logs, you’re on thin ice as it is.

Toodles!

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Gotta have big daddy mods come ban for you, huh?

Can't handle an argument about - if Dems are shills and if TX lawmakers can even be charged with murder. You admitted Dems are shills. You haven't been able to post any laws that lawmakers could be charged with. You don't like protest because it bothers you. Lol. You handily lost and then tried to turn over the game board when everyone could see it.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

By all means then! Don’t let me get in the way of a person hell-bent on getting themselves banned from this community.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm fine being banned if I was standing up for what I think. That's integrity and courage though - do you know what those words mean?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

ROFL…. Internet activists…. Hilarious.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Who usually goes off about "social justice warriors" and "internet activists," and why? Why is it funny or embarrassing to be sincere online? Or is it just that you've been fed propaganda so you won't seek education or give validity to people like me? Who does that help? Your corporate pals who literally give us cancer?

The internet is a modern library of Alexandria with enormous amounts of knowledge on it brought to you by "internet activists." Lemmy was literally created by "internet activists."

Imagine being on social media to just parrot status quo opinions, reactionary speech, advertisements, and propaganda. Lmfao oh my. Imagine having a social media where your comments are indistinguishable from a bot because you're too scared to have opinions.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

In general I'm always feeling good :) How about you?

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Never better. Have the night you deserve.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Got a vibrator and good weed and food, I plan on it :)

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think supporting genocide is.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe -2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah. No one does. So what’s hilarious is your baseless accusation that flies in the face of all things real and proven.