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[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't they be genderfluid, not trans?

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No it's not. Transgender and genderfluid identities are different.

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So a tricky thing with LGBT words is they seem to vary around specificity.

Like people can say gay to mean gay men, gay people, or any kind of queer.

Similarly transgender can mean a gender identity not matching your biological sex, which includes genderfluid; or it can mean specifically a binary trans man/woman.

These aren't different valid opinions about the label. They are literally just different definitions for the words that depend on context. The words mean all of those things but usually only one in each context.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Transgender and genderfluid identities are different.

Hold up. No, that's not correct. I am trans myself, and while I'm assuming it's not your intent to do so but this is walking in to some toxic gatekeeping that is common in some communities. Not tying to call you out, but respectfully and politely, it's a pretty big party foul to say a group is or isn't trans.

"Trans" is an umbrella term in which transgender, transexual, non-binary, generfluid, demi boy/girl and Intersex people all fit under. None of these things are mutually exclusive. And conversely, it's not a requirement either. Many intersex, fluid and non-binary people do not consider themselves trans, and that is 100% their right, but many do as well.

It's entirely an individuals choice, and saying X isn't "trans" only leads to exclusion and intercommunity bigotry.

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i mean, i doubt many genderfluid people were assigned genderfluid at birth, so they aren't really cis. whether or not individual genderfluid people choose to identify as transgender is their thing, but i think genderfluid broadly fits under the transgender umbrella. or are you saying genderfluid people are cis?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck kind of logic is that? Do you think that people are only capable of being cis or trans? There are several gender non-conforming identities, that does not make them trans.

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i mean, what other categories are there besides cis and trans? either you identify as the gender you were assigned at birth or you dont.

[–] EightLeggedFreak@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Something something non-binary

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

yea my point is that nonbinary is a subcategory of trans. at least in my eyes. im not sure how else someone would categorize it, but if anyone has other ideas id love to hear them.