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This is probably a bad idea, but I'll give it a whirl.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So we remove that. Problem solved

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sure, so you start by getting 290 votes in the House. Those are the folks who needed 15 tries to get a simple 218 vote majority to decide who their own leader was.

Then you need 67 votes in the Senate, the folks who can't get 60 to break a filibuster.

Then you need ratification from 38 states... In 2020, they split 50/50 for Biden vs. Trump, here's the map:

Find 13 red states willing to give up their guns. Oh, wait, did I say 13? Yeah, 6 Biden states have Republican statehouses, so now you're looking at needing as many as 19 Trump states to give up their guns.

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Guns are a lot like a drug addiction. They feel good at first for fighting off the British, but eventually everyone gets one and starts shooting each other. Trying to take them away is like trying to get a needle from a heroin addict.

Politically it's impossible because of the control money has in our elections. And even if they made all guns illegal overnight, you just sent 400 million firearms directly to the black market... bad things would happen.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Even if you made guns illegal overnight, there's no feasible way to remove and destroy 400 million guns.

People love to say "Australia did it!" Australia only removed 650,000 guns, 20% of all privately owned guns.

https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback

In order to have the same impact, the US would have to run the equivalent of the Australian program 123 times.