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[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Dems aren't making baby steps in the right direction, though, look up the progression of natural gas exports under Joe Biden. They're actively making big steps in the wrong direction.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One metric is the only thing you go by? Do you really think that climate change is driven solely by how much natural gas we export?

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok, can you please give me other metrics? How many nuclear plants have been built? How much has been invested into new rail infrastructure, whether for freight or for passengers? Have there been any new tariffs on the import of electric vehicles? Any regulation against single family housing, against car dependency, or against meat consumption?

Please, what metrics have improved, other than renewables being installed (at a much lower rate than in many countries)?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There... are no metrics in the link you sent me... There's "plans to reduce emissions by X year", but no mention to progress so far. There's "investment into carbon capture and sequestration" (famously known to not work) but no metric. There's "a pause in the approvals for new natural gas projects" (but the ones approved keep opening up)...

Have you even read what you sent me?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After decades of effort ending in failure, near-misses or small wins, Congress finally delivered transformative legislation to tackle the climate crisis in 2022. This would not have happened without Biden’s leadership, as well as the efforts of Congressional champions and countless climate action advocates and analysts.

Of course, the hard work of deploying climate solutions at the necessary speed and scale has only just begun. This task is now more difficult due to the divided 118th Congress, but the landmark legislation enacted by the 117th is secure for at least the next year. There are opportunities for the 118th Congress to deliver incremental progress through bipartisan clean energy permitting reform and Farm Bill reauthorization.

We either get this, or we get full steam the other way. I'm not blown away by what he has done, but arguing that he is going in the wrong direction just doesn't align with the facts.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So no metrics by which things are improving, gotcha.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If passing the largest climate legislation in us history is a non metric, yes you do got me.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok, give me some metrics that explain why this is the most effective climate legislation please, other than Biden claiming so

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

why this is the most effective climate legislation

When a poster blatantly misrepresents what I've said, I view that as them just admitting they realize I'm right.

other than Biden claiming so

lol you act like I didn't just link you the analysis of some third party.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

I asked for metrics, you're bringing words, do you see the problem?