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[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

Does anyone else feel like it sets a really bad precedent to attack anyone running under a different party?

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. The Green Party sits on their ass until presidential election. They haven’t moved the needle. Best case scenario, they’ve convinced a few non-voters to participate. Worst case, they’re dishonest opportunists.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This angle also needs to be considered). She’s not running in good faith. She’s essentially functioning as a 5th column to pull away voters who would otherwise vote for Harris.

I’m not saying Harris shouldn’t be pushed on environmental issues. I am saying that trying to do that by voting for Stein is actively harmful to the goal of not letting the fascists win this election.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

More importantly, if you are voting for her because of the environment, voting for stein is actually harmful to that goal because it helps trump win, which means instead of making baby steps in the right direction, we'll run full steam in the wrong direction.

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[–] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it bodes well she sat with Putin at a conference, whether there was "language barriers" or not.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

>Third-party fringe candidate who gets less than 1% of the vote having dinner with Putin, Trump's national security advisor who was later arrested for lying to the FBI about his ties to Russia, and several major Russian political figures before an election in which Russian interference provably helped Trump win.

>The US president acting in an official capacity and meeting with the leader of a major world power.

"They're the same picture."

Boy, ~~Russian bots~~ Jill Stein stans are really tripping over each other to see who's the biggest, dumbest idiot, aren't they?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Third-party fringe candidate who gets less than 1% of the vote

  • President of the United States, who got over 51% of the vote

God damn, who is going to have more influence over national policy I wonder?

Jill Stein stans are really tripping over each other

The SCOTUS recently decided a president can't be held liable for acts committed in official capacity as a means of shielding the Cheeto-in-Chief from any and all criminal liabilities. It appears some folks on Lemmy are piling on board with this reasoning, so long as they can use it to shield Genocide Joe. A democrat could shoot a man on fifth avenue in broad daylight, and you'd see people on here defend it.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really proving Technician's point with that hot-take.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reactionaries gonna reactionary.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Got caught spewing incomparable pictures and childish responses?

Are Jill Stein and Tankies the same? Just asking questions....

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[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wow. You really don't see the irony in that sentence, do you?

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Look, whatever you think of Jill Stein, she can only be a threat to democrats because they are vulnerable to arguments from the left. If you don't want to be vulnerable from the left, adopt some of their popular ideas. Putin isn't tricking Americans into being anti genocide, or into wanting universal health care.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know there are plenty of arguments to hit the dems on from the left. However, most of the attacks I'm privy to seem to be more about establishing leftist cred than actually doing something productive, and Jill Stein is one of the best examples of this.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling for an arms embargo is productive.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but then being unwilling to take any concession is not. The green party could, for example, pull itself off of ballots in key states or elections when the Democrats agree to their policies.

Running a doomed to fail candidate that only weakens the likelihood of the most left candidates and pulling progressives out of the Democrat party is a bad move.

Say what your will about RFK, he's getting political power from Trump by dropping (if Trump wins). What will the green party get? Nothing.

Dropping and endorsing after concessions is the real way for a minority party to weld power. Running no matter what is just delusion that works counter to any goal you might have.

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[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Kamala and Walz are more left-leaning than any dem ticket in ages. If the purpose of the Green party is to move the democrats left, then they should drop out to reward them for moving left.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Putin owns this lady. You're a dumb, bad, selfish person, Jill.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jill seems to think the Dems are running Biden.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Care to drop some key policy differences between Harris and Biden?

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The green party aka the gop distraction party.

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