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What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn't heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why have an animal to.torture it? Get a parrot of a fish then. Don't adopt an animal, that can't understand, and push stupid human values to it. A person that says wants to "protect" animal should respect nature. but you know... vegans are jot the best at logical thinking

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

if the animal enjoys the food and it has all the nutrition the animal needs then how is it torture?.

Do you also rant at people who keep their cats inside against their will?

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope the RSPCA, ASPCA, Whatever your countries local equivalent is looks into you with that sort of mindset

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if the animal has nutritious food and enjoys the food then the RSPCA would be fine.

the RSPCA published the following information:

it is possible to develop a plant-based diet for cats, these need to be carefully formulated to meet the unique nutritional requirements of the cat and be appropriately supplemented with essential nutrients

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

so the RSPCA would have zero issue with a cat on a vegan diet as long as the cat had adequate nutrition and was eating palatable food.

any argument with that?

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You keep making this logical jump that a cat would enjoy eating shitty food with supplements. They would not. A cat would enjoy some chicken.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but what if they did enjoy eating the biscuits? Would you knock the food out of their mouths?

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

“But let’s just assume I’m right…”

No. Don’t get a cat.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

so if the cats enjoy the food and the food is nutritious you would be against it?

[–] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tldr: animals will die, either by eating them or by preventing them to breed (which is even sadder). The entire vegan ideology makes no sense and it works only in a world with infinite resources — certain not ours

Yes, because vegan is outright stupid. There is a balance to everything and animals (humans included) eating other animals/plants is perfectly normal and shouldn’t be frown upon.

What do you think would happen if animals didn’t eat other animals? Or plants? Someone would have to kill them or make them not reproduce anyway — which is exactly what happens with cats — to compensate overpopulation which is a problem (one we experience right now, why do you think most of the people in this world live in shitty conditions? Or are poor as fuck?) humanity is struggling with and other species like cats. Vegans is just bored people thinking they know better and try to make their own little world without thinking it’s not sustainable and it doesn’t even make sense.

Unnecessary edit: I don’t even eat that much meat and I wouldn’t really care if I stopped (I did for a while cause it was too expensive and not worth it) and the conditions animals are breed are completely fucked up, sad and unnatural (think of dog, cat, chicken, cow breeding) but that doesn’t mean that eating meat is wrong and should be replaced by some lab shit (for the aforementioned balance thing reason).

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you lived on an island where there was plentiful nutritious food that did not cause suffering, where there were health benefits to eating the vegetable options and where there were vegetable options that tasted similar to meat, would you still continue to eat meat?

[–] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

then let’s say I’m on this island. Would I prevent the animals from eating other animals?

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

you would not have to. An animal living in nature is exempt.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They won’t enjoy it. We’ll do a fucking experiment, link whatever product you’re talking about. I have three cats, I’ll put a cockroach in a bowl, your soggy biscuit in another, and a piece of chicken in the third. Which will they go for?

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

But if the vegan cat biscuits are enjoyed by a cat and are nutritious, then would you have any issues with it?

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stop with the gish-gallop already

It's pretty bloody obvious what you're doing

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Gish gallop is a series of untrue statements said in rapid fire that the other person does not have time to refute.

you don't understand the word.