Asklemmy

43912 readers

1195 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

Open-ended question
Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

Lemmyverse: community search
sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
!lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

-1

Are you a 'tankie' (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

42 comments fedilink hide all child comments

edit: this is now closed future comments won't be counted

I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hang on, so you’re telling me you guys use ‘liberal’ to encapsulate everything from Bernie Sanders to George W Bush?

If you’re going to double down on not reading the Wikipedia entries for liberalism or socialism, I’m not sure what to tell you.

Yes, Sanders, both Bushes, and Reagan are/were all liberals. Off the top of my head I don’t recall the US ever having had a president who wasn’t a liberal. We had a bourgeois revolution to overthrow a still semi-feudal monarchy, and we’ve been a bourgeois-run state ever since, just as the bourgeois Founding Fathers intended. Our government was never meant to represent the working class, and it never has.

Also, while I wouldn’t call Sanders a socialist either, he is not a centrist by any standard measure.

Sanders is a centrist by the standard measure: the left is socialism; the right is liberalism. He’s center-left at best. He wants to preserve the bourgeois order while providing a better safety net to the proletariat. He is in no way on the left, and he has a history of supporting US imperialism.

The Overton window in the US is so far to the right that most Americans wouldn’t know the left if it bit them.