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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On public WiFi I just vpn into my home network. The issue with public WiFi is that it can be sniffed by anyone in range since there is generally no encryption.

Although pretty much everything we do is over tls these days, and DoH helps protect against even dns sniffing. There's still at least some risk to working in the clear over a public WiFi network. At least in information gathering, what bank you use, etc.

But, there's no real benefit in using a paid vpn over one you own unless you're downloading illegal content, want to watch another Netflix region, or are in a country with heavy Internet monitoring/filtering.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

With TLS and DoH, how is your bank and other information leaked?

[–] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He said "which bank", which could be determined by the sniffing DNS requests, or seeing which IPs his computer is connecting to.

Not a breach of his personal information (assuming the bank that he's using and the client he's using after putting everything in TLS properly).

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But with DoH you can’t sniff the DNS, that’s the whole point.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But you can see the ip address, which will id the bank. They can derive other information by ip addresses or leaked data and there's still things using unencrypted connections even today. I generally just connect to my home vpn so at least it's inly my isp spying on me.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Generally you can also read the SNI.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 2 months ago

I think this is one of the things that ech is meant to solve. But ech/esni is still not widespread on smaller sites yet I think.

[–] phillipp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

You actually still can. Have a look at DNS fingerprinting

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Possibly the domain is visible with a traffic monitoring tool. Everything else is between you and the bank via HTTPS. Having said that, whatever is not over https is visible to whoever sits on the same network as yourself.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 months ago

Importantly, you probably don’t know what all is encrypted in every app you use on your phone, so it’s best practice to encrypt the transport.