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The United States has spent a record of at least $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel since the war in Gaza began and led to escalating conflict around the Middle East, according to a report for Brown University’s Costs of War project, released on the anniversary of Hamas’ attacks on Israel.

An additional $4.86 billion has gone into stepped-up U.S. military operations in the region since the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks, researchers said in findings first provided to The Associated Press. That includes the costs of a Navy-led campaign to quell strikes on commercial shipping by Yemen’s Houthis, who are carrying them out in solidarity with the fellow Iranian-backed group Hamas.

The report — completed before Israel opened a second front, this one against Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants in Lebanon, in late September — is one of the first tallies of estimated U.S. costs as the Biden administration backs Israel in its conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon and seeks to contain hostilities by Iran-allied armed groups in the region.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh shit I braintarted that sentence; I should have added "with the US". With that said, I agree with pretty much everything you said so allow me to nitpick a bit.

First, I don't see Iran starting any direct wars with anyone when their proxies are willing to do all the work for them. This is a common tactic in the region because it works, destabilizing effects on your surroundings aside.

Second, I don't think the US is trying to prevent the destabilization of anything. If anything an unstable Middle East is in their interests to the extent it doesn't cause a refugee crisis for Europe.

Third and last, while Iran is definitely pretty bad, I think they're one genocide and a few hundred thousand slaves short of being as bad as Saudi Arabia. Again, I'm no fan of them, and weaker Iranian influence would be good for the Middle East as a whole as long as it doesn't lead to (or be caused by) stronger US influence, but Saudi Arabia is just that evil. Iranian is a more typical dictatorship vying for local hegemony.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't know that they're actually short the genocide, considering Iran's backing of Syria, and the US definitely has an interest in a Middle East that is not in open war because of the effects of instability on international trade and the domestic political blowback from that, but otherwise I think we're in agreement.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't know that they're actually short the genocide, considering Iran's backing of Syria,

Oh shit you might be right, but does Assad have any genocides under his belt? I thought the worst he did was gassing his own citizens.

the US definitely has an interest in a Middle East that is not in open war because of the effects of instability on international trade

I was thinking unstable as in unstable dictatorships dependent on US support to keep their citizens down ala Egypt. I agree they generally don't want open war in the region.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh shit you might be right, but does Assad have any genocides under his belt? I thought the worst he did was gassing his own citizens.

There is a very strong ethnic component to the ongoing civil war. There's been a lot of ethnic cleansing and massacres supported by both sides - but obviously, as we're discussing the Syrian government, Assad's government being the important genocidal actor in this conversation. Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias have been... particularly vigorous in this.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

I see. Yeah that makes sense.