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Oh my god, how many times does it need to be said?
Shoot for the impossible and earn yourselves a dictatorship by splitting the vote and electing Trump. Be ready with the champagne if he wins because you'll've been a big part of that and you should be proud.
Why do you think she was hobnobbing with Putin? The only question is whether she knows she's being played for a fool here.
If you want to convince people who're upset with the Democrats' poor policy offerings to vote for them, you aren't going to do it by shaming them into settling for less. It does not and will never work.
If the Democrats want to win, it is on them to offer an actually appealing platform. Blame them for failing at that.
That doesn’t matter in the US election system. You’re going to get Kamala or Trump, so pick the one that is more tolerable to you.
The Democrats' own platform doesn't matter?!
I really hope I don't need to explain why this is an obnoxiously awful take.
I think they're just advocating practical harm reduction. In a 2 party country without ranked choice voting (obv there's more to it than that.. not writing an essay here), you'll only ever have the 2 choices.
If they're arguing that people should vote, or that they shouldn't vote Green due to spoiler effects, then they're not arguing with me, frankly.
My position throughout this thread is that it's folly to avoid pressuring Democrat tickets to improve their platform, not that anyone should abstain from voting or vote third party. I'm going to vote in November and it won't be for the Greens. The key part is that I also plan to shame the Dem ticket for doing such a poor job in the meantime, too; they need to move left now, not later.