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So you don’t like Trump or Harris – here’s why it’s still best to vote for one of them
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we can handle them just fine because the fact of the matter is trump would be way worse for Palestine. There's a reason Netanyahu prefers Trump.
Stein would be better by your logic because she'd stop sending multibillion dollar thank you checks to Israel whenever they kill American journalists.
no, because stein is a stooge and has no chance at all of winning anyway. that's the entire point of the article.
Why is she a stooge? You don't like democracy or you scared Kamala supporting war criminals might mean Stein has more of an impact than you'd like to admit?
She is funded by republicans and has no experience in government whatsoever. She is utterly unqualified for running the most powerful country on earth. She literally only exists to take votes from democrats.
Now, now... She did win a seat in the Lexington town meeting in 2005. :)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
"2005 Lexington Town Meeting
In 2005, Stein set her sights locally, running for the Lexington Town Meeting, a representative town meeting, the local legislative body in Lexington, Massachusetts. Stein was elected to one of seven seats in Precinct 2.[156] She finished first of 16 candidates, receiving 539 votes (20.6%). Stein was reelected in 2008, finishing second of 13 vying for eight seats.[157] Stein resigned during her second term to again run for governor.[158]"
Republicans fund Democrat candidates all the time if they think it will help them. It doesn't mean she is a Republican or has Republican policies. Russians funded Bernie in 2016.
Every other candidate exists to take votes from another candidate. She is against funding genocide in Israel.
People crave a non-establishment politician. So this whole, she isn't the "establishment" thing you got going on doesn't help your case at all. Are you saying she doesn't have experience on being a corporate puppet like establishment politicians do? And that is a bad thing why?
I'm not talking about republican-leaning citizens, I'm talking about the literal Republican Party funding Stein. Trump's personal attorney Jay Sekulow has represented Stein in various court cases around this election.
nice straw man.
I'm saying she literally has no experience with how government works, in any aspect. She's a physician. She has no law degree, no experience in legislation at any level, no experience in administration at any level. No foreign policy experience at all (except dining with Putin). I'd sooner vote for AOC to be president than Jill Stein.
Lawyers defend a variety of people... I'm not sure if you knew that or just thought that there are only Democrat attorneys and Republican attorneys. I guess that may come as a surprise to you.
Joe Biden being Weekend at Bernie's around like Feinstein by Democrats while telling us he's sharper than he's ever been shows that Democrats primary experience is lying to the public.
Jill Stein graduated magna cum laude from Harvard. She studied psychology, sociology and anthropology. To pretend she is inexperienced is laughable. She's highly educated and has shown conviction in her beliefs unlike Kamala who changes whenever her donors tell her to.
Kamala is running around praising Dick Cheney thinking it'll help her election chances and continues to immediately defend genocide everytime she's asked.
People want sincerity & honesty more than anything else, and a populist candidate. You know, popular ideas like turning off the money tap to Israel.
People are tired of being lied to and they are tired of being attacked for not being content with the same old playbook from 2016 & 2020. Each time the establishment Democrat candidates look more and more like corporate neocons.
Give it up bud. The veil is lifted and no one is falling for it.
No I refuse to support people that are pro genocide. It's that simple really. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing that I voted for that. I was going to vote for Kamala but I just can't do it unless she changes her position before the election.
You hopefully won't be able to sleep at night when things get worse because you refused to get your hands a little dirty doing what's best.
I don't like to clean dirty dishes, but it's got to be done sometimes. I'd rather it just go away, but the alternative is much worse. I recognize that doing nothing doesn't actually accomplish anything, as nice as that feels. I have to just get over it and get it done before things get much worse.
Whatever analogy you're trying to create, what you're saying is that you are going to vote to continue funding genocide. Democrats have become the party of the neocons. Not surprising considering Obama would lock up the activists revealing that he US was killing journalists in Iraq.
I'll sleep just fine because I stood up and was on the side of humanity and compassion, not the one that was so blind that they voted for the person that praises Dick Cheney and says how she'll always support genocide.
Don't worry. I know that you were going to sleep fine regardless. You're likely a decently well off white person. It wasn't going to bother you no matter what. You aren't the people who you are sacraficing, and you're OK with that. That's fine. Don't pretend like you're hands are clean though. You're a part of this, and you have the power to participate in a meaningful way. You're choosing not to so you can feign moral superiority though. That's cool. I see you though.
Thanks for assuming I'm a rich white man to fit your narrative of making genocide easier for you to support. And yes I do sleep better knowing I'm not supporting someone who has made it crystal clear that she'll continue enabling genocide.
I didn't say rich, but I'm sure you're not struggling to survive. You didn't contradict it, so...
When the election is actually between two people, one of those two are going to be elected. One of them will amplify things, the other will not. I know which one I'd want if I'm a Palestinian. Luckily for you, you aren't a Palestinian and you're perfectly willing to sacraficed them so you can tell everyone else that your morals are so good and your hands are "clean." It's really convenient how easy it is, and I'm happy for you that you found this loophole. Meanwhile I have to sit in my recognition that people are suffering and I am trying to do what I can.
Okay… well, either way- at least we won’t have to hear from you all after November… so, enjoy it while it lasts I guess. We’ll all just see you again in 2028 when you push whoever is running against democratic choice.
I'm not going anywhere. You'll be the one to not care about anything until the next election. BTW, it is funny you talk about the Democratic choice in this election.
Your “nO i’M nOt! U aRe!” has the same vibe as “I know you are but what am I?” Which is to say…. Cringy.
And whether you will predictably disappear along with the rest of the idealist leftists that always do once an election is decided- will remain to be seen.
I’ll stick around because I’ll have no reason to hide. If we win, I’ll be here celebrating with everyone else. And if we lose, I’ll be here blaming people like you…
With everyone else.
Exactly... glad you admit, you'll be blaming everyone but the person that was praising Dick Cheney and whenever asked about genocide, her first response is always... "we'll always be committed to Israel."
I don’t give a shit about Cheney. He’s a powerless blowhard. He has zero to do with anyone and no power to commit any thing to reality- aside from him supporting her over a traitorous dementia addled rapist he’s nothing to no one.
… but you know this already, don’t you?
And don’t think we all don’t see you people constantly attack Harris over her accepting support from Cheney, while being starkly silent about all the assholes that support Trump. And for that matter, anything at all that is critical of Trump.
We know what you’re up to, buddy. You can stop now.