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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I gave the more specific example of destroying Republican legislation, and either you’re too dishonest to acknowledge that, or too stupid to understand. Why be like this?

Yes I'm too stupid. "Why be like this?" indeed.

How about instead of a weirdo list of things you've randomly assembled, we take the actual subject of this original post into consideration?

The reason they haven't re-united the families is largely that there were no records and/or shitty records kept about who was separated from whom, so they don't know who the children's parents are.

Yet another example of how it's easier to make a situation worse than it is to improve it. It's much easier to separate families and bus the people in them around the country, and it's harder to figure out whose 4-year-old some kid is.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A list of Trump's executive orders that Biden rolled back is a weirdo list of random things?

That seems like a transparently stupid thing to say - I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, stand back and let you explain that one.

It can't be that you think that because some things are easy to undo, all things are, and that because my examples don't fit that narrative, you dismiss them in a fog of cognitive dissonance.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

You came up with some stupid list of bull crap and want to discuss that instead of the actual topic because you've lost the argument.

You lost the argument in the general case: it is generally far easier to make something worse than improve upon it.

And you lost the argument in the specific case: it is more difficult to reunite children with their parents than separate families, and it is extremely more difficult to do so when you don't know who to reunite them with.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yes - it's harder to reunite kids with their parents than it is to separate them - I'm not arguing that - I'm saying that not every bad thing the GOP does is an act of destruction - like the creation of the executive orders Biden destroyed, like the creation of the policies that led to the separation of those children from their parents. Destroying bad policy or bad EOs isn't inherently harder than creating them - repairing the damage they do is the hard part, but you don't get to do that until you fix the bad policy/EO. This is the part where the Democrats have made some progress, are world better than the GOP, but remain a disappointment.

You're boiling down everything that the GOP does to destruction, and that simply isn't the case as I've already demonstrated. As long as you insist on ramming those square pegs into such an over-simplistic round hole view of the world, discarding any clear, but inconvenient fact, you'll fail to understand the world, and any conclusions you draw will continue to be utterly worthless.

Now I'll stand aside and make room for you to stupidly/dishonestly pretend that destroying bad EOs (which is exactly as easy as creating them) is "bull crap", and that I've said the GOP creating bad things is somehow good because you imagine creating things is inherently good, and only something the Democrats do.

Fuck me - I'm honestly ashamed to share a political tent with such a moron, but better you than the Nazis, I suppose.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’m saying that not every bad thing the GOP does is an act of destruction - like the creation of the executive orders Biden destroyed

The simple act of "creating an executive order" isn't an act of creation / improvement in any sense except for perhaps the most literal and pedantic sense.

Of course it's as possible to repeal executive orders as it was to issue them in the first place, the point is that much of the damage was already done and some of it is permanent.

Fuck me - I’m honestly ashamed to share a political tent with such a moron, but better you than the Nazis, I suppose.

Like we share tents...you're probably one of the "Genocide Joe" morons.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Yeah - OK, you're operating under your own definition of creation that happens to align with whatever is convenient for your narrative. I'll stick with the dictionary, thanks.

From the outset, my primary concern has been the legislation and EOs that do the damage - our "representatives" enact them, and they do the damage. You need to start with the rollbacks of the things doing the damage before you fix the damage. This isn't complex.

I'm opposed to genocide - I sure as hell hope you agree with that - I'm also vote blue no matter who as long as the alternative is spewing openly Nazi rhetoric like a unified Reich and immigrants polluting the blood of the nation.