this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2024
457 points (99.4% liked)

politics

19091 readers
4203 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 34 points 1 month ago (7 children)

That's the one group I don't understand, the finance guys, business owners, stock analysts, etc. How can they possibly be on team Trump? You want some certainty in the market, not some dementia patient steering the wheel with Christian Nationalists like Stephen Miller whispering directions in his ear.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's the one group I don't understand, the finance guys, business owners, stock analysts, etc. How can they possibly be on team Trump?

Tax cuts for the rich

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Lot of fucking good that's going to do them when nobody can afford to buy their shit

Who are you going to sell to? Because it ain't me, and it ain't 99% of the rest of the American people. So if these rich fucks want to chase their infinite paycheck, they're going to need some revenue.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ahh but for one glorious quarter, profits will be through the roof. The collapse of democracy afterwards will be an unfortunate market adjustment

[–] DekesEnormous@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Ah the ol’ pump-and-dump-a-roo

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Because they don’t actually want to own a company. They want to own a kingdom

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

That is the nature of greed. There is no thought of the future or consequence.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“What does The Wall Street Journal know? They’ve been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you’ve been wrong,” Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.

Ah, yes, the well known unreputable, woke, liberal extremist publication, the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For some of the ultra-wealthy (Theil, Altman, Andreessen, Eric Schmidt, OpenAI board, etc), a type of accelerationism seems to be in-vogue (e/acc publicly, and probably accelerationist thoughts like The Dark Enlightenment privately). I think some ultra-wealthy are just trying to hedge their bets (Zuckerberg, and news corporations come to mind), because if Trump does win he'll definitely try to use his power to harm companies he doesn't like. I think others, such as Musk, want to be Russian-style oligarchs. I guess all this is kinda related; accelerate into some sort of collapse or chaos, use their positions to maneuver into greater power and become oligarchs or create corporate-city-states, or whatever stupid shit they believe in.

I think finance workers are about as split between the parties as the rest of the population; probably more socially liberal. Small bussiness owners are some of the most ignorant and authoritarian people I've encountered.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Also you’ve gotta look at other similar situations in history. Capitalism isn’t doing so great at the moment and that drives people to socialism or barbarism. To the rich who’d spent a long time fighting for capitalism to be unrestrained its an easier leap to fascism than to restraining capitalism.

The harsh truth these people don’t want to accept is their best outcome involves huge taxes on them to fund a revamped new deal alongside strong unions that will force them to pay labor fairly. They’ll still be rich but it’s unlikely they’ll be “quick jaunt to orbit” rich.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

He creates turmoil and doubt, which is fertile ground for scams and cons.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of people with a high degree of expertise in one area are deficient in other areas, but wrongly assume they are geniuses in all areas.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

I just assume I'm a dipshit across the board so I can be pleasantly surprised any time I do something competently

[–] terraborra@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 month ago

Cocaine’s a hell of a drug.

The richer you are, the more likely you vote republican.