this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2024
112 points (94.4% liked)

Asklemmy

43895 readers
1165 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I hope you're joking.

Martin knows how to write people. He can create the most vile, repulsive, irredeemable characters known to man and then teaches them mercy, honour, and sacrifice by forcing them into situations where they have to question who they are.

He redeems the irredeemable, not only in the text, but also outside of it by merit of the sheer humanism he expresses in his works.

I learned a lot about humanity, mercy, and forgiveness just by reading his books. No other author has come close to reaching me in such ways.

[โ€“] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmmmmmm
I'm not sure about that

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"whilst I concur wholeheartedly with the detailed rebuttal you have given, I alas remain uncertain, caged by the incongruous gut feeling that compels me."

[โ€“] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read them all (so far anyway) and they're decent enough.
I don't think he redeems anyone who is irredeemable or has any special insight into humanity. There are some awful people who are complicated and there are his favorites who get away with anything and come back from death multiple times. They all make good decisions and bad decisions and get good consequences and bad consequences and those don't always line up.
I don't want to diminish your experience but I really don't see it.

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago
[โ€“] Meltrax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it is great that you were able to gain so much from reading his books. I personally did not. That is not to say the values you drew from them are invalid in any way. It's not an assault on you personally. You liked his books, I didn't. Both of those things are ok. So no, I am not joking. While I have read other works that impress me to the level that you describe, Game of Thrones did not do so for me.

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I think I'm bad at communicating the usual wink I have in my tone when I disagree with people: https://lemmy.ml/post/21428751/14330685

[โ€“] Kvoth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I don't know if he's joking, but seriously they sucked. I barely made it through them