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the proposal is from a red-hat team member and is proposing addition of "privacy-respecting" telemetry. here's the link to the hyperkitty thread

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[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

why? just don't ruin my beloved fedora please, if telemetry exists it should be opt in, not opt out

[–] Mortalsub@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally agree. It's a shame, Fedora really is an awesome distro. Adding telemetry was to be expected since IBM is the parent company of Red hat and almost anything IBM touches turns to crap.

[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah might be time to distro hop i guess

[–] OverfedRaccoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Fedora is what finally got me to stop distro hopping 2-3 years ago. :(

[–] AES@lemmy.ronsmans.eu 3 points 1 year ago

Same. It would be a real shame if we need to jump ship.

[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

fedora is my first experience with linux and i thought i made a good choice and i never had to mess around anymore but now i am seriously considering it :/

[–] dartanjinn@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This. I always opt in BECAUSE it's opt in. Ask and ye shall receive and all that; but if you're gonna try to force my hand, well...no, I don't think I will.

[–] curiousaur@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you prefer an IBM maintained distro?

[–] Mortalsub@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Who said anything about "preference" to an IBM distro? I used Linux mint, Ubuntu, manjaro, arch, opensuse in the past, so there's definitely no preference to IBM.

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, this is not "ruining your beautiful Fedora", this is a proposal that both us users and the developers can pitch in to develop telemtry in a way that does not abuse its users.

And about the opt-in/opt-out nature of it, feel free to join the follow-up discussion about it on the forum:

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/opt-in-opt-out-a-breakout-topic-for-the-f40-change-request-on-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation/85395

[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i get the importance of telemetry and maybe i worded my inital reply a bit harshly. but you probably will agree that this really does not paint a good picture of red hat with the whole rhel controversy as well

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Highly disagree. Although I'm not content with RH's decisions during the last few months (especially when it comes to their layoffs), this one shouldn't even be a controversy at all. It's just a proposal for a community project. There will be no RedHat threats or higher-up decisions without the consent of the community. That's the main difference between Fedora (which does have deep ties with RedHat but is through and through a community project) and RedHat (the downstream entreprise).