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Among these voters, Harris gets a boost because they believe she would protect abortion rights, and some have broader hopes that electing the first female president could send a strong message to the country. But she’s weighed down by a number of important factors: a dim diagnosis of America’s economy, negative views about life during President Joe Biden’s administration and a lack of familiarity with her, which has bred ambivalence and distrust.

It’s different for Trump, one of the best-known political figures on the planet. Some of these voters believe his conduct during his time in office has disqualified him in their eyes, and even some of his supporters fear he’d focus more in a second term on fighting his enemies than on governing.

Still, a majority of the 12 participants in two sessions — part of the NBC News Deciders Focus Group, produced in collaboration with Syracuse University and the research firms Engagious and Sago — are leaning toward Trump for the oldest reason in politics: It’s the economy.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

But she’s weighed down by a number of important factors: a dim diagnosis of America’s economy, negative views about life during President Joe Biden’s administration and a lack of familiarity with her, which has bred ambivalence and distrust.

No mention of Gaza? Seriously?

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Gaza is going to look like a joke compared to what happens to the world when Trump gets elected.

I guarantee you with 100% certainty within 6 months of Trump being elected you will not give any fucks about Gaza. Not. A. Single. Fuck.

Within a couple years people around you won't even remember Gaza was a "thing".

If America doesn't vote for Harris that's what will happen.

I will eat forty pounds of pig shit live on whatever autocraticly approved media platform is in control of your mind in 6 months after Trump is elected if I'm wrong.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guarantee you with 100% certainty within 6 months of Trump being elected you will not give any fucks about Gaza.

If Trump wins there won't be a Gaza to worry about. Bibi will turn it into a glass parking lot.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Don't it always seem to go

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

!remindme 6 months

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 2 weeks ago

Okay telling me, an Arab, that I won't care about Gaza in six months is... interesting, but do your thing I guess. That aside, has anyone told you that this attitude is condescending as fuck?

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These are very low information voters.

There's a big bubble here with the number of people outraged about Gaza vs the average American giving no fucks.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The average American does, in fact, give at least a few fucks about Gaza and the prospect of another war in the Middle East. You can look up the polls yourself. Also, even if the average American didn't care, the average swing state American sure as hell does. Michigan gets the most popularity, but the American Midwest in general has a high number of Muslims who are a key demographic in this election. And, you know, people generally don't like genocide.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago

A poll that prompts for a response for what someone thinks about a particular topic is not the same as figuring out whether the respondent regularly thinks about that topic when not being polled.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Undecided voters don't give a shit about Gaza. They couldn't even tell you what continent Gaza is on.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They think Gaza is the place with the pyramids

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well if it's not then why are they fighting over it?

/s

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're literally saying that Palestinian and Muslim voters have no idea where Gaza is?

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Undecided voters.

Can you read?

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Gaza isn’t much of a topic outside of lemmy, far left, and some young people.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And among American Muslims. I count two absolutely necessary demographics if Harris wants to win in November here.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don’t think those people will be the tipping point. Any of them who think “Harris won’t help” certainly cannot think that trump will. perhaps they won’t vote at all. I suppose not voting is a strategy that has proven itself to work, time and time again. Leaving the decision to fate, I guess. Knowing that the absence of their vote will truly change things. Take that, Harris.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Take that, Harris.

Literally yes. Democrat turnout has been the deciding factor in elections for decades now. When democrat voters stay home, Democrats lose the election.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online -1 points 2 weeks ago

I’m sure the electoral college has already made up their mind.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If Trump was president right now doing the exact same thing, liberals would be all about it. Since it's team blue, causing the death and providing the weapons for murder, it's okay. It's a non issue.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it's a puff piece meant to cast nonvoters in a pejorative light; adding in gaza would be too on-the-nose.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nonvoters should be cast in a pejorative light. People should be ashamed not to vote. If you don't care enough to decide the difference between two incredibly opposite futures for the country we should collectively dump your ass in the dead center of the Atlantic Ocean. Both sides are the same, right?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

A significant portion of them can't vote because of voter suppression and the dnc is not bothering to help.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree, you're right. When I see nonvoter I assume moron instead of disenfranchised. There are far more of the former than the latter.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

Don't let that commenter gaslight you. They weren't referencing disenfranchised voters - those who can't vote - when they wrote "Gaza would be too on-the-nose."