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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The correct answer actually should -and could- be 0 gallons if they simply cycle to work. Granted, that requires them to have the right infrastructure available, but if (once) that existed, the vast majority of the work force could cycle to work happily. Most people don't live 20 miles or more from where they work

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It could also be 0 gallons if the busses are electrified, or if the rail system is expanded, or if we stop pushing office workers to commute every day.

There are many routes to 0 emissions.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Oh sure.

I'm just sayjt that we need to change the way we live. Like you said, people should not be required to work in offices anymore. If they physically need to be at locations, let them walk for short distances, cycle for medium distances and use public transportation for large distances.

Most cities in the world have been redesigned over the past 80 years for cars. It's insane and it left most cities awful places to live in. Almost all Dutch cities have been redesigned for people. So people walk and cycle because they can, and the cities look and feel amazing and beautiful.

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sure, I'd love to cycle 56km to and from work each day. Especially right after a night shift.

We should just invent portals already.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we invented portals I feel like they would use more fossil fuels than just driving.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the bones are fully consumed by the teleportation ritual.

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Green and renewable fossil fuel (don't ask where we get the bones)

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

56 kms is far, indeed. Thsts what you make public transportation for. Trains, busses.

Well done, the would be more comfortable and faster than a car.

However, I did 25 kms to and from every day. Took me 45 minutes and it was super healthy

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I commute with a car to a bus. I lived closer but this only takes 15min more.

[–] XiELEd@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

45 minutes is a long time near nightfall, though... Honestly I'd rather take a bus at 5PM, even at 12km, since there are other people and it feels much safer.

[–] uberrice@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe... Move closer to where you work?

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I never thought of that. Thanks! Now I just need a shit ton of money to do so!

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many gallons does the ambulance take to get the cyclist to the hospital after the hit and run?

(Seriously tho bicycles ftw except in winter)

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Less, probably, because cycling in on itself is safer than driving a car. Lower speeds, less mass, less injuries.

Also, winter cycling.is awesome

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was being facetious; ambulance fuel use is a silly comparison :)

Listening to all y'all winter cyclists I lament that I live in a city where the bike lanes are where the city piles up the snow it plows off the car lanes on the streets. RIP me. It gives me hope and happiness to know that there are cities that don't do this!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah those would be cities that see bikes as children's toys instead of what they are: a better form of medium range transit