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EU unveils ‘revolutionary’ laws to curb big tech firms’ power - The Guardian
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I know that I can uninstall first-party apps on iOS (for years now). I think Android users can, as well. It seems like, other than the monetization bit, this bill simply codifies things that already exist. Am I getting that right?
If so, they are praising themselves for saying "you have to" about things that already exist. Don't get me wrong, it's important to prevent backsliding (I hate that word), but c'mon. And yes, the anti-monetization bit matters, it should be there, I just think this is overblown reporting.
Carrier pre-installed apps are definitely not easy to uninstall on android
Neither are Google apps. According to my Pixel YouTube is essential for my device to work.
I can disable it but not delete it.
Oh, and if I want any weather I need to give my location to all Google services.
Deleting it makes no sense with the way Android partitioning works. Disabling it prevents any of the code from running. The only way to find it again is to manually go into the settings of your phone and search for disabled apps.
I'm new to Android, why is this the case? Are these apps stored in the protected OS partition?
Yes. Android has a separate partition with a fixed size that stores all preinstalled apps. Deleting one of them wouldn't help with giving more storage for user files, all it would do is break the ability to restore everything with a factory reset
Thank you, that makes sense but still feels unnecessary when they could install those apps with permission during setup.
Would take more internet bandwidth and make first boot slower. Would also reduce performance for thise apps, as this way they can have pre-optimized versions of every app.
They’ll need to install security and performance updates anyway for those apps to function. And time to first boot doesn’t really matter, the user already bought the device and they’ll presumably do it exactly once in 99% of cases.
Have you ever touched a Google phone? You CAN'T uninstalled preinstalled apps on ether of them, if you don't root your device third party app stores suck, the law allows you to get rid of preinstalled bloat, messager interoperability is included and so on, that's a huge law and the first against silicon valley giants with enforcment that will actually hurt them!
It's not just that. Apple can't self preference their own app store on iOS for example. They not just have to allow other app stores or just installing stuff, they also can't have their own store as a default. They also have to enable people to use browsers other than Safari.
You can definitely disable most pre-installed apps on Android, and even force uninstall them with adb. But complete removal is hard, so they'll still sit on the hard drive.
Because every man and there dog can be bothered to go open a shell and find the command to uninstall via adb?
That's the problem. I hope the new rules will make it possible to remove apps without external hardware or software.
Heres hoping