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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

"Basket of deplorables" vibes.

[–] Bobknock@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was true then, it’s true now.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bit counterproductive when you're trying to get some of the ones on the fence to vote Harris.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If this is on the fence I hate to see the other side

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

For real. I'm at the point where I've lost my tolerance for this whole situation. If we can't collectively decide that this is a fucking ridiculous place to be as a country and make the only choice that has even a chance of getting us out of this mess then we need to hurry up and get the collapse over with. It's utterly asinine that we are even having this conversation.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I heard a Trump leaning voter say on TV that the Trump rally joke about Puerto Rico made them switch to Harris. Yes something died inside me. Still there's so much riding on this that I don't care where the votes come from, as long as Harris goes over the line. 🥹

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Nobody is on the fence about this. It's all about mobilisation.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Exactly my thoughts. True though it may be, denigrate the leader, not his followers. Kamala didn’t fall for that obvious trap in her Fox interview, and now Biden’s made up for that. You never call voters stupid. Especially when they very much are.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, surely a party that calls their opponents criminals, pedophiles, paid actors, and cheaters repeatedly in every rally would be making a dire mistake that would remove them from any reasonable chance of contention.

Maybe civility politics is just a stupid illusion.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That’s one advantage Biden has right now: since he’s no longer running, he can speak the truth without it impacting his campaign.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

You just say they must have been born from a collapsed star?

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Y’all are forgetting that this whole thing is graded on a sliding scale. If Harris did 1 of the crazy things Trump does every damn day, this wouldn’t even be a close race. So yeah, Trump gets a pass for calling American citizens “trash,” but Harris would be torched for anything remotely similar.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

...yeah this is just gonna get them riled up. Name-cally bullshit is the right wing's turf - if we play there, we lose every time.

This should have been a call to unity.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We lose because we half-ass it.

They're beyond deplorable, everybody knows it, this false politeness helps nobody.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can make harsh comments without petty insults.

Bonus points for leaving a way out, so people can feel their dignity to stay intact when leaving their position instead of feeling that they have to double down.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hundreds of years of slavery.

1m Americans died because they wanted to keep slavery.

100 more years of Jim Crow, slavery in another guise.

Hitler cited Jim Crow in Mein kampf as an example German genetic policies must follow.

Black GIs came back from fighting nazis in Europe to be lynched for being 'uppity'.

Our mistake was not being too cruel, it was being too gentle.

Notice how Germany doesn't have nazi statues everywhere.

Purge once, or suffer forever, we made the wrong choice, needed to let uncle Sherman finish his work.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I mean it could go either way really, lots of reports of people peeling off support already because of how extreme MAGA is, if they get riled up even more and really start shooting at the sky it could definitely accelerate that peeling.

It could also backfire, so who knows.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hillary was wrong by 50% on that one.