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This is ridiclous

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[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I read someone else musing that they must have thought that keeping it plugged in all the time would be bad, so the made it impossible to use the mouse while plugged in. Seems plausible. I suppose it would degrade the battery? Or the cord drag would be bad?

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 50 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The design forces the user to use it wirelessly. Apple just wants their products to look better, meaning NO CORDS EVER. It's entirely about aesthetic.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They should have just released a mouse pad that can charge the mouse wirelessly then.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I think Sun made mice that didn't work without their metallic mouse pad, that had some sort of grid on it.

Apple's problem is in following:

There are industrial designers, fashion designers, managers and engineers.

Apple doesn't have industrial designers. Only fashion designers pretending.

In a normal company managers consult designers and engineers back and forth, both figuring out some compromise and also asking the other group whether there is a better way.

Not in Apple. Their designers are clearly superior hierarchically to engineers.

And in the end their products are of inferior quality (for that price).

Apple's idea of how things should look and work, when expressed in words, is absolutely fine! It's actually wonderful. And perfectly possible, it's actually the same goal as with industrial ergonomics.

Except they don't have the process they need to fulfill that. They only have the PR to pretend.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

If I worked at Apple, I’d hire you right here, right now.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

im surprised they haven’t done this tbh

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apparently Logitech does have this out now, so I wonder if they patented the "concept" and it will be another 20 years before anyone can do it. Assuming that someone else didn't already do it 20 years ago and that patented already ran out.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ive seen one at least 10 years ago already. But that didn't exactly charge the mouse, instead the mouse relied on always being on the pad to work.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's not true. It charges very slowly, about 12 hours to charge a completely dead battery, but it does charge

The bigger problem is that it's expensive af, and since current gen Logitech mice have months of battery life and charge in an hour with the usb cord it's really pointless.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Their trackpad can and does work via USB so ???

I have one of their trackpads and it works great with Ubuntu over USB but not over Bluetooth for some reason. (It connects, but Ubuntu doesn’t handle it well.)

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s literally just the same body as the OG Magic Mouse, which had a bay for a pair of AAs underneath. All they did was remove the bay, put a rechargeable battery in there, and a socket to charge it. It takes a couple of minutes to give it 9 hours of juice.

There’s no grand conspiracy.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

I've said too much they're coming for me they know they know they know

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If that’s the case, then why does the wireless keyboard have the port on the back?

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"But it looks bad and could be bad for the battery!"

Every other wireless mouse has it in the front, Apple has no valid reason to leave it at the bottom.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The fact that everyone hasn't taken on this design trend just shows how stupid it is.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They also take on stupid design trends, like removing the headphone jack.

This one is just several degrees more stupid.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

There's the unsolvable problem - to prevent companies doing stupid things.

And there's the solvable problem - have enough competition so that companies doing stupid things would become or remain small.

Which is why all the stupidity in computer industry in our days is a result of patent laws and protectionism.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

On the battery, they should have been able to do whatever they thought best in the battery management system, in that case.

Simple answer is easiest, that they are obsessed with the "clean" minimalist look and want to abolish every visible port and buttin they can.

Surprised though that the mouse didn't do the magsafe thing.