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Typing monkey would be unable to produce 'Hamlet' within the lifetime of the universe, study finds (phys.org)

submitted 1 month ago by VantaBrandon@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think the point is less about any kind of route to Hamlet, and more about the absurdity of infinite tries in a finite space(time). There are a finite (but extremely large) number of configurations of English characters in a work the length of Hamlet. If you have truly an infinite number of attempts (monkeys, time, or both are actually infinite) and the trials are all truly random (every character is guaranteed to have the same chance as every other) then you will necessarily arrive at that configuration eventually.

As far as your process, of procedurally generating each letter one by one until you have the completed works, we actually have a monkey who more or less did that already. His name is William.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

monkey who more or less did that already. His name is William.

????????

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Ol Bill Shakespeare. He wrote Hamlet, one correct letter at a time.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Humans are apes, apes are monkeys, paraphyletic groups are bullshit.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be entirely fair, apes aren't monkeys. I don't think that particular distinction is really all that relevant to the discussion, but technically...

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

From wikipedia:

Traditionally, all animals in the group now known as simians are counted as monkeys except the apes. Thus monkeys, in that sense, constitute an incomplete paraphyletic grouping; however, in the broader sense based on cladistics, apes (Hominoidea) are also included, making the terms monkeys and simians synonyms in regard to their scope.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh neat. This is all taxonomy that is well beyond me. My defense of calling humans monkeys is that everyone does it, and that's how language works. Glad to know I'm correct too, technically lol

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Username checks out.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

isnt that a misconception? apes just share a common ancestor with us

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well. technically he was an ape rather than a monkey.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Technically true, I think it still fits for the layman.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

I think the point is less about any kind of route to Hamlet, and more about the absurdity of infinite tries in a finite space(time).

I know. It's just that creationists misuse that metaphor so often that I couldn't help but share my brainfart here.