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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

True, but with AMD the problem was that they had serious deficits and were near bankruptcy.
And these technologies are getting more an more expensive. The latest tapeout Apple did for M3, is estimated to have cost $1 billion. That's for tapeout alone!!!

We are at a point where this technology is so prohibitively expensive, that only the biggest global players can play.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing is, if Intel doesn't actually get 18A and beyond competitive, it might be on a death spiral towards bankruptcy as well. Yes, they've got a ton of cash on hand and several very profitable business lines, but that won't last forever, and they need plans to turn profits in the future, too.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes that's true, Intel has been behind for almost 8 years, but they've had massive ressources to make a comeback, A luxury AMD never had.
AMD was kept out of the market so they barely made money even when they were clearly ahead.

And only now after 8 years Intel is having a fiscal year deficit. That's not comparable to the situation AMD was in when they made their comeback.

But I agree that unless Intel succeed on 18A, things are not looking good. But there's some way yet until they are in a similar situation to where AMD was in 2016 when Ryzen was revealed.