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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Yes, now you mentioned two issues.

Want me to add a few more, and you give your takes on those?

Let's start with a few easy ones:

  • Bodily autonomy of women.
  • Gerrymandering
  • Climate change
  • Land grabbing
  • Corporate tax evasion

You make the exact same mistake, too. You let people direct you towards a singular, specific, feels-driven point instead of trying to give an informed vote. Any large-scale politics is always going to be a hybrid vote. You won't have any even city-wide, nevermind state-wide candidate of any party (over here, I know it's only two for you folks :P ) where you agree with all of their stances.
But if you let someone train you to ignore the vast majority of stances in favor of just 1-2, I hopefully don't need to explain to you how you have effectively turned yourself into a voting-drone. You can be trivially led by anger and feeling, not by rational thought and informed vote. And especially on large-scale politics, the problem is not with immediate feels, in particular if people start putting those in power that want ot actively dismantle their own checks and balances. Because then even if they later decide differently, they cannot remove them any more. It's now too late for that.

It says a lot that everybody commenting is so hyperfocused on Gaza. This is exactly what the right wing wanted. And I blame voters for so readily - and greedily - walking into this "trap" (for lack of a better word, not my primary language).

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (11 children)

"feels driven point" as if I don't have coworkers and friends in Gaza who are living through the hell that Israel, and by extension the US put them through. That's why "she's not Trump" isn't a good strategy. Fuck "other stances" - I care about them right now. Saying I should stop and "deal with it" is like walking up to a grieving family and telling them they should "deal with it" that their child is dead. You call it "a trap" you call it "stupid" when in reality it is an important issue to some people, just not you. So keep going on about how people are idiots, when it is 100% on the candidate to say "we need to stop what's happening there". And when the polls came back and it turns out "oh hey that gets us votes, lemme say that!" she immediately flipped 180, two days before the election.

People like you like to quote the "First they came..." poem like the first line isn't "First they came for the Palestinians".

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Okay... And what did you do here to move the needle on the Gaza issue? Holding your breath and turning blue feels like a moral high ground sure. But what did you actually do?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wow you're a straight up asshole. Im sorry but there it is. Not a 'how can I help' but a fuck you. Gloriously on full display. And you wanted this person's support for harris? Bless your heart. Jesus i need a drink.

@Maalus@lemmy.world heres a hug for you and the shit you and your circle have been going through this last year. I'm really sorry for everything that has happened.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Appreciate it. My coworkers are incredible people, you could write a movie about the shit they've done. I know that in their place, I most likely wouldn't be able to give as much as they have to the people around them. They inspire me every day to continue doing what I'm doing, even when it's hard and often thankless.

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