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[–] Steve 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

The Democrats threw it away.
For several races now they've been told by many actual progressives, they need to embrace economic-populism. They refused to. Instead embracing the Cheneys. They got out played by a convicted felon, who's older than his IQ (thanks to another lemmon for that line. I love it).

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Man... don't take this language personally. It's just the only way I know how to speak right now.

In what fucking world do you think a more progressive candidate would've turned Michigan and Pennsylvania blue?

Christ. I hope I'm fucking wrong. Because I do believe in a more progressive agenda. And I'm in Michigan. But this takeaway is absolutely fucking nuts to me.

The last thing we need is for the hardcore blue states to be even bluer while the battleground states are all red.

I don't know, man. Explain your math to me. Because I can't wrap my head around it. But I haven't slept in like 36 hours, either, so maybe it's just me.

[–] Steve 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I didn't say progressive. Progressive is a very broad term that can apply to all sorts of things.

I said economic-populist. One of the few things nearly all of us agree on in this country, is that the corporations and the ownership class have too much power in politics, and they're getting that power by stealing money from the working class. Trump was good at speaking to that, without actually doing much to help. The Democrats did some to help. But not enough, and they didn't want to sell it much for fear of scaring off the ownership/donor class.

Leave behind all the racial, sexual, social justice progressive stuff. It's divisive and won't help you win. Helping the poor generally, will disproportionately help those people more anyway. Just without putting them in the spot light.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Totally fair, man. Thanks for clarifying. Sounds like a totally reasonable take.

[–] caoimhinr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump was good at speaking to that

I don't understand this, he campaigned with Musk, flaunted the idea of offering him a cabinet position and Musk stated the people would suffer under his policies. That's about as pro corporate as it gets.

[–] Steve 1 points 1 week ago

You're still not internalizing or groking that everything he says is some kind of lie, and can't be taken literally.

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