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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We kept trying to warn you.

And every time - every last fucking time - anyone told you that moving to the right was going to cause people to stay home, you lot shot the messenger. Every time someone screamed the writing on the wall out loud, centrists who were so happy that the party was finally embracing genocide and Cheney were like "Russian! Tankie! Trumpist!"

I voted for Harris. You'll blame me anyway. Democrats will always shoot the messenger and double down on their simping for fascists.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

Hear fucking hear 👏🏻 💯

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The liberal tries to become an arbitrator, but he is incapable of solving the problems.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago

"I do not think that liberals understand the difference between influence and power, and the liberals get confused seeking influence rather than power. The conservatives on the right wing, or the fascists, understand power, though, and they move to consolidate power while the liberal pushes for influence."

Thanks for sharing that link. It unfortunately still shows to be true even today. :(

[–] hernanca@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I said basically the same the article says a couple of days ago and was pelted with a gazillion negative votes. Centrists are averse to learning from mistakes, otherwise they wouldn't be centrists.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Every time someone screamed the writing on the wall out loud, centrists who were so happy that the party was finally embracing genocide and Cheney were like “Russian! Tankie! Trumpist!”

Edit: the downvotes prove my point hah

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Sorry you got shit on for being right. I don't think I've ever downvoted you.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm used to it by now. You should have seen me on Twitter during the 2016/2020 campaigns. It was rough!

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

It's nice people like us can be mocked and not shift right.

Unlike those people who claim "I had to vote trump because the left left me, I didn't leave them."

Or Harris.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course, they also said that you would be gone as soon as the election was over, since they couldn't accept that anyone who deviated from their pro-genocide orthodoxy could be an actual person and not a Russian bot.

There will be no apologies from any of them for their disgusting near-constant libel that only stopped once there was a rule against calling people Russian bots. They just switched to calling anyone who saw what was going to happen a Trump supporter instead.

They're too busy trying to figure out how to justify how this loss means they need to move to the right.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not nearly as much of a downvote magnet as either of you, and I still have some dude following me around claiming I'm a Stein shill despite every mention of her in my history being to shit on her. They've just got the one move.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

DARVO is a move both parties make to deflect blame.