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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 71 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Seeing Bernie speak truth to power is incredibly refreshing, especially since he points the finger not at the voting public, but at his own team mates, who absolutely did drop the ball multiple times.

I hope people actually take his words on board.

[–] chetradley@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of my in-laws are Trump supporters, but do you know who they support more than Trump? Bernie. They want a lot of the same things that progressives do. Obviously there are Trump supporters that are racists and fascists, but I'd bet the majority just want a better deal for the working class, and they fell for Trump's promise that he's the one to do it.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's quite interesting that there is a lot of cross over between Trump and Bernie, but Trump does at least pretend to care about the working class.

[–] chetradley@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The average voter is living paycheck to paycheck, just trying to make ends meet. They see executives making billions while the US government is spending trillions on military equipment, and meanwhile, they're seeing the prices of basic necessities skyrocket and they're just trying to figure out how to live.

This person may vote for Trump, or just sit out the election because they don't think either candidate cares about them. It's not about whether you're progressive enough or centrist enough, it's about speaking to the biggest problem: wealth inequality.

Will the Democrats figure this out? I guess we'll see in 3 years.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Given that the only person I've seen blaming anyone but the voters has been Bernie, I doubt it.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Blaming the voting public does nothing other than to help us feel better about ourselves. "It's not our fault, the people are just stupid and naive. They were always going to vote for Trump, there's nothing else we could have done". It's what we've been doing the past three election cycles and it isn't working.

We can't make them change. Change only comes from within. We can't keep telling them they're better off with us. We need to pass legislation so that the average, uniformed voter can see it for themselves.

[–] humblebun@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

That's one thing that I like about grandpa style lefties and don't like about Lemmy: blaming trumpists for wanting a change in the political system. Lemmy and MAGA crowd share common fears about the future and have absolutely different solutions.

Why the fuck one wants to highlight the difference and not the thing that's in common. People achieve unimaginable results when working together.