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Seems to me that the fact that 90% of families in China own their home, with 80% of these homes are owned outright is a more important thing to focus on. That's just me though.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes
Socialism is not a battle between america and china. Who owns skyscraper in china?
Socialism is a transitional period where the working class holds power in society, but capitalist relations have not yet been abolished. https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/3228-lenin-s-three-theoretical-arguments-about-the-dictatorship-of-the-proletariat
I wouldn't define socialism as just a period of time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
I'm wondering about how many houses own the state leader that comes out with the quote "houses are not for speculation"
You're far out of your depth if you are linking the Wiki article on "Socialism" to a Marxist that is recommending a synopsis on Lenin to you.
If you want something a bit easier to get into than Lenin, I really like the article What is Socialism? It's a quick, 30 minute read. The gist of the article is that Socialism is about what is dominant within a system, in Socialism central planning, public ownership, and the proletariat at large are dominant, while in Capitalism the bourgeoisie, private ownership, and markets are dominant.
In the PRC, the public sector makes up half of the economy and is growing, and Capital is trapped in a bidcage model while markets coalesce into monopolist syndicates, making themselves ripe for public ownership and central planning. The PRC is therefore Socialist.
Read the link, socialism date way before Lenin and it's not a political party.
Read the link, everyone knows that. You don't have a grand trump card in the wiki link. We are specifically referring to Marxist Socialism, not the nebulous historical usage of the term, because we are on a Marxist community.
That's a good clarification. I didn't know this is a marxist community it's not specified anywhere
The hammer and sickle if nothing else should give it away. You can talk about other forms of Socialism if you want.
Socialism isn't a period of time, it's a stage of development. Meanwhile, you're making some claim about how many houses Xi owns, so it's on you to tell us.
The guy linked a Wikipedia article on Socialism after you sent him to Verso Books. The brain is so smooth on that one.
you can always tell when people get all their political views from wikipedia 😆
You also can tell when people are biased and don't really know much history
I see you've made a self referential comment there because it's pretty obvious you are one of those people given prior ignorant statements you've made in this very thread.
go ahead and point to the ignorant statements
You linking to wikipedia repeatedly when trying to define socialism.
You are the one who tried to define socialism and come up with a reductive definition. The wikipedia page on socialism covers the broad aspects of socialism and its history.
I did not come up with a reductive definition, and I linked you a detailed explanation of what socialism actually is and its relation to communism. You never addressed that, and just continued to spam your wiki link. You're like a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Wikipedia is a good source for history. The page on socialism contains the major key events and enough cross links, the history section for example redirects to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism
I encourage you to study more history and not just a specific period of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
I encourage you to take your own advice and actually study instead of skimming wikipedia. You can start by studying the verso link I gave you earlier.