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[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 270 points 5 days ago (54 children)

When I first learned that Teslas (and almost all other EV's) have electronic only doors, I knew this kind of situation would happen.
I hope this gets laws enacted that force manufacturers to install mechanical latches on all of their vehicles. I know Teslas have manual overrides on their front doors, but the rear doors still have this issue.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 92 points 5 days ago (6 children)

It's like if Titanic not only didn't have enough lifeboats, but instead had no lifeboats, and also everyone was locked in their cabins.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In this case, they have lifeboats (apparently), they were just all hidden down in the ship somewhere (apparently).

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

False: "All but two lifeboats were situated on the Boat Deck, the highest deck of Titanic."

"Titanic only had enough lifeboats to accommodate approximately a third of the ship's total capacity."

"Compounding the disaster, Titanic's crew was poorly trained on using the davits (lifeboat launching equipment). As a result, lifeboat launches were slow, improperly executed, and poorly supervised. These factors contributed to several lifeboats leaving with only half their capacity."

But seems they launched 18 out of 20 available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeboats_of_the_Titanic

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I believe @warm@kbin.earth is referring to how Teslas have electronic door releases instead of mechanical handles and they don’t work in a fire. There is a mechanical emergency override (I think only on the front doors) but it’s not obvious and there have been multiple deaths from people who could not figure out how to escape from burning vehicles.

To me it’s the most egregious example of Tesla not knowing the basics of how to build a car or eschewing user experience conventions that have been developed over more than a century of car building for good reasons in favor of trying to be modern or futuristic.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Thx, okay I didn't get it but makes sense. Yeah it's really stupid to "reinvent" everything and offhandedly brush away the things that have been written in blood during previous decades... I mean it's kind of obvious that a safety mechanism needs to be fast and easy to operate. Making someone disassemble a door while on fire and blind from the thick smoke might not be the best idea. And you'd need to perform some safety dance each time before boarding a Tesla or people/passengers won't know the strange procedures.

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