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Daughter and this classmate of hers have been dating since August. She told us him & his whole family are Scientologists. I’m not going to lie, I didn’t know anything about it until she mentioned it, my first thought was “oh, they believe in science? That’s cool”. Then I looked it up online… and I still don’t understand anything. Most sources say it’s a bad thing, but I don’t get what it’s all actually about, as in doctrine, beliefs, activities, etc. I don’t even understand if it’s an actual religion or one of those pay-to-level-up self-care courses. One of the most confusing things I’ve ever read about. So if anyone could explain it straight to the point, I’d be very grateful.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 36 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

It's bad, really really bad. Have a talk with her immediately. It doesnt mean her partner is a bad person, it just means her partner is caught up in something bad.

Don't interject yourself in between, just expose her to all the news articles of people who have tried to get out, and the cult like behaviors.

[–] taturquoise@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The part that really stood up to me was that the boyfriend himself won’t talk about his religion’s beliefs or practices with neither my daughter nor us (her parents), if you ask him he’ll only say surface level abstract stuff & will say the rest is members-only. He’ll say the Church “is family and these things are family business”. It’s weird not even being able to get a member to explain things to you.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 25 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

For a long while their innermost secrets were just that, secret. Members are tight-lipped on any real elaboration, and won't engage with outsiders.

It also makes it really difficult for outsiders to present any countering logic to their beliefs. People aren't gonna tell you you've fallen in with crazies, if you don't tell em the dumb shit you're being told is real.

But a lot of it is now out in the open, if you know to look. Even then, the church AGGRESSIVELY wields the law in an active attempt to suppress public knowledge as much as possible. But as even top-level members have left the cult over the decades, even the innermost bullshit has been exposed.

It's probable that your daughters boyfriend himself knows much less than what is available online, because members are discouraged from interacting with any "harmful" media so as to not grow disillusioned, and aren't told anything substantial until it's way too late to painlessly pull out.

It's all quite deliberately set up to be as insidiously prolific as possible, while minimizing the chances people will leave.

And if people do show start to show signs of wanting out, the gloves come off really quick with stuff like blackmail and legal action.

Even its tax exempt status in the US is a complete farce, yet it lends the cult an air of legitimacy.

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago

South Park s9e12 actually does a decent job rounding up and illustrating their beliefs. Might be worth a watch, if you don't mind South Park.