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[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Been meditating for years, and it took me a long time to realize that excitement is not happiness. But closer to what Buddhism calls restlessness and worry. And it tends to cycle with sloth and torpor in a pattern very similar to what we call bipolar.

Manic episodes, for me, are when the excitement keeps going without any rest. Exhaustion occurs. And delirium sets in.

I don't find any of these states pleasurable (i.e. euphoric). Joy is what I equate closest to euphoria. An overflowing abundance of positive feelings shared with others. I imagine if we got worried or restless hanging onto that positive feeling, it could play a role in the cycle though.

Happiness is calm, restful. A lack of restlessness, anger, sloth and torpor, etc. Contentedness is a synonym for happy.

Anger/Desire, are, at base, aversion and attachment. If I'm attached to joy or angry at my depression, those are additional factors that keep us caught in the cycle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_hindrances

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh god eastern religions have puritans too? jk, glad to hear you're doing well.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How was I being a puritan? I used language throughout that demonstrated I was speaking from my own experience and sharing my own understanding.

All language points at people's real experiences and understanding. And how I define a word, such as excitement and happiness, affects my understanding of what is possible. I thought they were synonyms for many years, growing up in a consumer capitalist culture, it's kinda what I was fed by advertising and my environment. Eventually, I learned to delineate them. And found, in my own experience, they're not the same.

If you use different words and have a different understanding of your lived experience, more power to you.