treefrog

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[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Actually, your comment is.

I write poetry, and I don't care if an AI can write it 'better'. Because I enjoy doing it and sharing it with other people that enjoy it.

It's art. Not a Big Mac. I make it to feed myself and other people that enjoy it. Not to sell billions of burgers or books.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The patterns in poetry date back to when writing was less common. They're mnemonic devices.

Today, they're still valuable when performing poetry.

I tend to not follow typical rhyme patterns, use off rhymes, non-ending lines, alliterations, etc. instead. I always found the typical rhyme schemes I was taught in school stifling, but as I've practiced my craft more, I have gotten more comfortable incorporating them into my toolbox.

Anyway, so many non-poets commenting in this thread. People who are serious about poetry know that they're unlikely to make a living off it. We write because we get joy out of making and sharing our art. A lot of poetry is still performed at open mics and poetry slams. And most of it is shared with people we know who appreciate it. In other words, most poetry isn't written with the intention of ever publishing it.

It's something we enjoy playing with, in other words. And until a machine can experience joy and playfulness, they're not doing art. Only copying it.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Art is in the act of creating it. Not in the final product to be bought and sold on the market.

A kid coloring is making art. The joy they get in the making is the art and is the point.

I feel sorry for so many people in this thread who keep approaching this from the point of view of consumer markets. It doesn't matter if someone can determine an AI colored picture from a child's. The AI derives no joy in the creation. It's not art, but a copy.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

There's a lot of consumer/commodity notions about art in this thread.

I write poetry because self-expression helps me appreciate life more deeply. I share my self-expression with others who will appreciate it. Mostly, people who know me personally and other poets.

Art is soul food. Until machines realize they exist, and one day will not exist, they can't self-express, and aren't doing art.

They can imitate it well enough to fool consumers. But that doesn't make it art.

To quote one of my favorite lines, sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago

Poets. You know, people who appreciate making and sharing that kind of art.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That's a commodity/consumerist take on art.

I write poetry because making art feeds my soul. I share my poetry because it feeds others, especially other poets.

I don't write poetry to sell it on Amazon.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

Poetry doesn't need to rhyme. Rhyming is a mnemonic device, so a poem can be memorized and performed.

There are many other devices.

Also, nice poem. Did you write it or chatGPT?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago

So, he's going to use his executive privileges to finally take care of Trump?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

I always figured it would end up that way.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 25 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

He picked people he has dirt on is my guess. So they stay in line this time.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How was I being a puritan? I used language throughout that demonstrated I was speaking from my own experience and sharing my own understanding.

All language points at people's real experiences and understanding. And how I define a word, such as excitement and happiness, affects my understanding of what is possible. I thought they were synonyms for many years, growing up in a consumer capitalist culture, it's kinda what I was fed by advertising and my environment. Eventually, I learned to delineate them. And found, in my own experience, they're not the same.

If you use different words and have a different understanding of your lived experience, more power to you.

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