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[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

2/3rds 2/3rds and 3/4ths are the requirements for a constitutional amendment, which is the requirement to change the citizenship granting mechanism for the country.

Or for SCOTUS to just decide the words mean something different now like a true 'originalist'

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, I misunderstood.

Yes, that’s if he intends to amend the Constitution. Lucky for him, he can deviate from the Constitution all he wants without repercussions, since the Republican controlled Congress will not hold him accountable to the document, and the conservative SCOTUS will not overturn an unconstitutional law.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

the conservative SCOTUS will not overturn an unconstitutional law.

I think you might be surprised here. Conservative judges are inclined to follow the plain meaning of the text of the Constitution at the time it was written. There's not much wiggle room in this:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They just need to redefine "persons."

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I could imagine them trying to include corporations... but seriously, Constitutional textualism is a cornerstone of what it means to be a conservative judge. They're pretty content to ignore or reverse precedent, but not to get creative about something spelled out plainly in the Constitution.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

... but not to get creative about something spelled out plainly in the Constitution.

And yet, presidents now have extremely wide criminal immunity.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

There's nothing in the text of the Constitution that says they don't.

Like most sane people, I think that decision was overly broad and has dangerous implications. On the other hand, if Congress could make crimes about Article 2 powers, that would effectively allow Congress to take those powers for itself by statute, overruling the Constitution's assignment of them to the president.

[–] procrastitron@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Their plan is to claim that the children of undocumented immigrants are somehow not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States and therefore not granted citizenship based on the 14th amendment.

Yes, it really is as stupid as it sounds; claiming that undocumented immigration gives your descendants the equivalent of diplomatic immunity.