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Summary

The “Rogansphere,” a sprawling ecosystem of podcasts and online shows led by figures like Joe Rogan, has become a powerful cultural force for younger audiences, functioning as a “Fox News for the young.”

With its mix of anti-establishment rhetoric, distrust of Democrats, and casual conversations blending left-leaning and conservative ideas, it normalizes figures like Donald Trump for a disillusioned, lonely audience—particularly young men.

Democrats risk underestimating its influence, as this ecosystem fosters deep listener loyalty and has contributed to a significant shift in young male voters toward Trump.

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did Hilary ever actually clear up the ambiguity though or did we have to give her the benefit of the doubt to a degree?

I dont quite understand what she had to gain from making the statement even if it was said different. She had a strange way of carrying herself thats for sure.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket_of_deplorables

There wasn't ambiguity to clear up in context, but she did regret saying "half" of his supporters. She was clearly never saying all of them. Unless you remove the context.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Okay well how about I say I want to murder someone and later take it back and say I only want to murder their bad half. It still sounds sorta like I feel the same either way right?

You can't say words like clearly unless you know her intent. She was happy to say it at the time, she liked the reaction in the room. Saying later she regretted it could just be an acknowledgement that it caused more trouble than it was worth.

Conversely, she could say, "It was wrong for me to call any group of americans deplorables." If she wanted to be a leader, take responsibility for your mistakes. Using clever words to make it sound like you might have maybe made a mistake but not really, and then acting like the victim of the story isnt a good look.

Edit: after reading the quote, it was delivered as a joke, very similar to the Puerto Rico joke that got bipartisan condemnation in this election.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think I can say clearly if her words put together never meant all by the definitions of those words.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm arguing calling any of his supporters deplorable is a bad move, not that she did intend to mean all. In other words, it doesnt matter because its offensive either way.